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[–] gennygameshark 115 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Ubisoft needs to get comfortable with the idea of people not buying their games then 😝

[–] cypherix93 54 points 10 months ago

you mean renting πŸ¦–

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think they already are. That's kind of the point of that guy's job.

[–] Lev_Astov 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I haven't even needed to pirate a game in decades. Does it still work the same way?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

On PC? Yes. On consoles? Depends on the console

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[–] Mango 78 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I am the guy who started this meme! Praise me!

[–] Viking_Hippie 48 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

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[–] Frozzie 10 points 10 months ago

You are a genius πŸ™

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 10 months ago (7 children)

From my understanding theft has always been to take something and after the other party doesn't have it anymore. This never applied to piracy.

For example: I used to pirate games back in school as I didn't have the money to buy them. So there is no financial loss for the company. Yet they still frame it as bank robbery or something. "You wouldn't download a car"

[–] [email protected] 63 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I would download so many cars.

[–] Viking_Hippie 24 points 10 months ago

Back when I played GTA 4 I DID download so many cars.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hollywood was so adamant about "not downloading a car".

Now they are the ones downloading actors.

[–] martino 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hollywood was so adamant about "not downloading a car".

That was a meme. The original ads were always "you wouldn't steal a car". Someone doctored a screenshot from the ad as a joke and now there are a whole bunch of people who think the ads actually said that.

[–] tpyo 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

Its based on the false assumption that you would actually buy every single piece of media if you didn't chose to copy it.

It's all fake and people accept it. Such is the world.

[–] Lev_Astov 19 points 10 months ago

Thepiratebay guy made an art project at one point that was a Raspberry Pi that did nothing but copy one song over and over again while keeping a running tally on a display of how much value it had "stolen" from the record industry by doing so.

[–] grue 11 points 10 months ago

β€œYou wouldn’t download a car”

I not only would, I did!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This never applied to piracy.

Didn't it? πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ

[–] grue 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It never applied to copyright infringement, which is often disparaged as "piracy."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Right, but I'm saying "piracy" has the same problem as "theft". Copyright infringement is even less related to the traditional meaning of piracy than it is to theft.

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[–] SlopppyEngineer 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Next year Ubisoft is complaining how people start a subscription just before the holiday and cancel after the holiday, with people playing dozens of games in a short period. This destroys their cash flows and shows great disrespect for the developers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The developers are already paid, and they only do what they are told to do.

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[–] GeneralEmergency 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

If I had a penny for every time I saw this quote decontextualised. I'd have enough to buy a Ubisoft game.

Which is kinda sad that it's been that often.

[–] Anticorp 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Too bad you won't own it after buying it!

[–] GeneralEmergency 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Thank you Valve

(For the Gamers reading. I am making reference to the fact that steam has already got gamers used to not owning their games)

[–] Pogbom 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Listen, I'm super smart and I definitely know what the right context is, but could you explain it for our dumber friends here?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

The exec said that in order for subscription gaming to be profitable, then customers would have to be okay with not owning their games. It was posed more of a hypothetical instead of a sinister plan. Now would they prefer subscription model? Absolutely. Do they expect it to work rn? The exec doesn't think so.

[–] grue 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Copyright itself was never ownership to begin with, and ideas were never property. Copyright is nothing more than a means an end, with the end being to enrich the Public Domain. It exists for the express purpose "to Promote the Progress of Science and the Useful Arts" and nothing else.

This is the moral basis for the Copyright Clause, in Thomas Jefferson's own words:

It has been pretended by some (and in England especially) that inventors have a natural and exclusive right to their inventions; & not merely for their own lives, but inheritable to their heirs. but while it is a moot question whether the origin of any kind of property is derived from nature at all, it would be singular to admit a natural, and even an hereditary right to inventions. it is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject, that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance. by an universal law indeed, whatever, whether fixed or moveable, belongs to all men equally and in common, is the property, for the moment, of him who occupies it; but when he relinquishes the occupation the property goes with it. stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society. it would be curious then if an idea, the fugitive fermentation of an individual brain, could, of natural right, be claimed in exclusive and stable property. if nature has made any one thing less susceptible, than all others, of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an Idea; which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the reciever cannot dispossess himself of it. it’s peculiar character too is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. he who recieves an idea from me, recieves instruction himself, without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, recieves light without darkening me. that ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benvolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density in any point; and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement, or exclusive appropriation. inventions then cannot in nature be a subject of property. society may give an exclusive right to the profits arising from them as an encouragement to men to pursue ideas which may produce utility. but this may, or may not be done, according to the will and convenience of the society, without claim or complaint from any body.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, mic drop.

Also, is that Jefferson's original capitalization? I never would have figured him for the type to think he's too cool for normal capitalization rules.

[–] grue 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also, is that Jefferson’s original capitalization? I never would have figured him for the type to think he’s too cool for normal capitalization rules.

Here's a picture of it (the first page, anyway, which isn't the same as the part I quoted). It appears that he, indeed, wasn't in the habit of capitalizing the first word of sentences. 'Course, it was so long ago that I'm not sure if it really was a normal rule at the time (especially for handwritten correspondence, as opposed to typeset publications).

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

It sounds like they are saying get comfortable with piracy. How else would you want to play a game without owning it?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I understand the slogan and why it is used, but I have never had any moral qualms about pirating the intellectual property of a billion-dollar corporation, call me weird.

[–] Viking_Hippie 15 points 10 months ago

You're weird.

I agree with you completely, just complying with your request.

[–] rockSlayer 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Basically when it comes to streaming services, what are you paying for? You aren't getting anything except temporary access that can be revoked at any time. What the slogan is saying is pretty simple in that regard: if we aren't buying anything but access, then you aren't stealing when sailing the seas

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I completely agree, what I'm saying is that even if I could actually buy it, or when this was possible, I would still not have ethical problems with "sailing the seas" nor do I think anyone should have those problems, I say again, the intellectual property belongs to billion-dollar companies

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Eh... piracy wasn't theft even before this, because you're not taking it away from someone else.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes please ubisoft make another generic assassin's creed game that is like all the others and charge me for it on a subscription based model.

This simulation of a simulation of a game is as important as office365 with teams at least.

I think they have a solid business case there, congrats ubi.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

"commies don't want you to even own your toothbrush"

[–] NutWrench 11 points 10 months ago

Ubisoft needs to "get comfortable" with gamers not giving them any money.

[–] Landmammals 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I like game pass as an option for playing games that I don't want to spend $60 on. But I also want the option to own it forever.

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[–] Surp 7 points 10 months ago

I mean Ubisoft doesn't make good games who gives a shit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Shouts at Ubisoft exec: "Then I'll just pirate all your games! Fuck you, Ubisoft!"

[–] leave_it_blank 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You want to really own your game, not just a license, buy on gog. Not on Steam, not on Epic, not on uplay and whatever else.

Why is everyone so pissed at Ubisoft, they just say what's practise for years now! And sometimes counter Ubisoft by quoting Gabe Newell, what the fuck? He made not owning games popular!

[–] turbowafflz 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

There's a big difference between having to pay a monthly subscription to play a game and just having to use steam to launch it after a one time payment.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Then they should aswell

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