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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by pathief to c/[email protected]
 

I've been working with a Javascript (+ TypeScript) + Java + SQL stack for the last 10 years.

For 2024 I'd like to learn a new programming language, just for fun. I don't have any particular goals in mind, I just want to learn something new. If I can use it later professionally that'd be cool, but if not that's okay too.

Requirements:

  • Runs on linux
  • Not interested in languages created by Google or Apple
  • No "joke languages", please

Thank you very much!

EDIT: I ended up ordering the paperback version of the Rust book. Maybe one day I'll contribute to the Lemmy code base or something :P Thank you all for the replies!!!

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[–] TootSweet 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Go. It'll be just different enough from what you have experience with to make you think about things differently (in a good way!) from now on. And it's also a fantastically well-designed language that's great for getting real work done. And it's lightning fast as languages go, and compiles to an actual executable. Really a pleasure to work with. It's my (no pun intended) go-to language for every new project I start. (Excluding what I write specifically for a paycheck. I don't have a choice there.)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

These come to mind:

  • Elixir to expand the way you think about problems (and maybe your career).
  • D to bring familiar conveniences closer to the metal.
  • C to understand (and maybe contribute to) a vast ocean of existing software.
  • Python for development productivity.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Kotlin is the language to beat imo. Very expressive and full interop with Java. Structured concurrency so multithreading Is a breeze. Build mobile apps easily with it for Android (and in theory iOS but that's still alpha). Desktop apps too!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Download GODOT and learn the scripting language and the shader language. Make a game! Or at least neat shader art.

Bonus answer: Csound. Make funky noises with code.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

C# has been doing a lot of really cool things lately, and has first-class Linyx support.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I love Clojure+Clojurescript

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Odin is quite a fun new language I just started learning. It is meant as a C replacement and comes with a decent standard library and third party library so there is a lot already built that you can use. It also is fully compatible with C and can use C libraries.

Just be warned that documentation is lacking and you will have to read the source code of the standard library from time to time or seek help from their discord.

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[–] monkeyman512 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Have you ever wanted to do more with regular expressions? Then give Perl a try.

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[–] fidodo 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

While it's related to your job and not very new compared to your current stack, it's very worth it to learn typescript. It has a cool type system and makes frontend development sane.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Alternatives

  • C#, because it's good
  • Rust, because it's different
  • a (purely) functional language, because it's different
  • Nushell, nice shell, and great for scripted data processing
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Kotlin would be the most straightforward/useful professionally if you're primarily Java. Other Java stack options are Scala or (shudders) Clojure

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I say that you should find some interesting project, possibly something related to some desktop environment like Gnome, KDE, sway, cosmic and so on. There are multiple fun/interesting projects around them. Then pick a small and manageable task, use that to learn the language that project uses.

I find Cosmic to be a very interesting desktop project, and they use Rust if that would be of interest.

[–] Jean_Lurk_Picard 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

DotNet is closest to Java, but hang on to your hat: the state of C# is at least half a decade ahead of Java, if not a full decade. It’s sophistication will make Java use feel like banging rocks together. DotNet Core can now run on all three primary platforms, and with some careful work, you can write a single program that can compile down to each platform and carry along its own required binaries, no pre-install of any framework needed.

My second recommendation would be Rust. Stupidly steep learning curve, but an absolutely game-changing one where safety and security is concerned. It’s my next objective, personally speaking.

Any other language I could recommend starts getting into speciality purposes, which makes general use more difficult or even wholly inappropriate.

For example, if you are dropping into DotNet for business applications, I would also recommend diving into F# for that functional goodness for building complex business rules and data handling. But building an entire app in F# can be jamming a round peg into a square hole under many circumstances, it’s appropriateness envelope does not cover as many cases as C# does. You want to use C# for boilerplate/frameworks, F# for the core bits where it is going to shine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Factor!

It's incredible and elegant and defies some common categorization.

I've put some of my favorite resources in the sidebar of https://programming.dev/c/concatenative and I'm happy to walk through any particular challenges/examples -- I've done about the first week of Advent of Code with it this year, and the most recent handful of Perl Weekly Challenges, and some basic Euler problems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Re the sidebar: How are Nim and Roc partially concatenative?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps Elixir is worth a look.

[–] mindlessLump 3 points 10 months ago

I would second Elixir. Either that or Rust. Sure both are popular, but for good reason.

They are completely different from the languages you use.

You will be introduced to new paradigms.

As a person who used the same stack as you (albeit typescript instead of JavaScript), I think it would be a waste of time to learn C#. It is so close to Java, and learning it may make you hate having to use Java, because it seems a bit better put together. Even though it runs on Linux, and is a good language, I don’t think there is ever a reason to chose it over Java, because M$.

[–] berryjam 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Ada and COBOL are still where the big money is, and still will be for years to come.

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