Ya agreed, I wish YouTube would've just pushed it as another app instead of forcing it down the main YouTube users throats.
Like, I don't even mind short tiktok like videos, but yeah I don't go on youtube for that
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There's a firefox addon called ' Hide Youtube-Shorts' and now I just never see them.
Hide Youtube-Shorts
Thank you for this! I can't stand the shorts in my subscription feed.
I go to YouTube to watch 2 hour long documentaries on subjects I don't even care about, twitch steam uploads or 30 minute videos from my dubbed channels.
I just watched a one hour video about a fridge, so I know what you mean lol
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youtube revanced allows you to disable it, i strongly recommend patching the app yourself
if you are interested here is the github link
I can second this enthusiastically, especially since it also blocks ads and sponsored segments, customizes the UI, allows background playback, allows downloads, and more stuff too.
yup it blows my mind that this is a much better experience than youtube premium not to mention you get it for free
yup it blows my mind that this is a much better experience than youtube premium not to mention you get it for free
Pretty much sums up all forms of piracy these days, given how bad the official media landscape became.
or in some cases prices are simply outrageous, i can not afford to pay that much for a medical textbook i will just sail the high seas and repay my debt by saving lives
or in some cases prices are simply outrageous
Even if individual prices aren't: no person with somewhat normal amount of income can pay for everything they're interested in (unless the scope of interests is very narrow). Streaming services here, "Patreon exclusives" there. It adds up. I miss the time where all professional content was just on Netflix instead of spread over 30 services.
The fact that free apps (or hacks, like Revanced) are better usually has to do with the incentives driving their development.
For services like YouTube, Hulu, etc., the developers are doing it as part of their job, with overall direction set by the company. They may not agree with the overall direction, or may not even use the product, but they have to do what the company says so they can keep their job and get paid.
On the other hand, for small independent projects, the developers use it themselves and are building it based on what they want plus community feedback. If it's open-source, other developers can contribute features they want to see, too.
This is why pirate video apps (both old ones like Popcorn Time, and also newer ones like Syncler, Weyd, CinemaHD, etc) generally have far better UX than the "official" services - it's developed with love, not with a "get this done so we can go home by 5" mindset.
There's also some things the official services don't even do. If you want to stream a movie in full quality (like a Blu-ray remux), the only way to do it is via something like Weyd plus Real-Debrid. None of the official streaming services have videos this high quality. Missed opportunity, IMO.
If you are rooted the magisk module is even easier to use. When I tried compiling myself it would always crash but the module works perfectly and super easy to update.
Also infuriating: With how much YT is incentivizing creators to create shorts, a bunch of channels I follow no longer even make regular 10-15 minute content regularly.
And I no longer follow them.
Yeah, this is the worst. The whole reason I use YouTube is for long-form content.
The more they shove these down my throat the less I want to watch them
Be reasonable. All sites must have Stories, and they must have Short Vertical Videos. They must. Surely you can see the necessity of that.
I don't watch tiktok and I don't want youtube shorts either, they are all equally stupid.
I watch youtube on android phone with NewPipe. On desktop I use Firefox+uBlock Origin with this filter sets
creators cutting 16:9 videos to the worst possible format (phone vertical) ugh
I don't mind shorts but their recommendations are somehow even worse that regular yt recommendations. And those are already dogshit...
Try ReVanced it doesn't have the shorts button, and you can remove shorts from your home feed.
On mobile, I use NewPipe X SponsorBlock which is a fork of NewPipe. Amongst other things, it lets you completely hide shorts. :)
I hate shorts and I’ve unsubscribed from any channels that make shorts.
I don’t subscribe to you for a 30 second adhd friendly clickbait video. Major respect lost for some channels.
I was thinking of making some Shorts for students, especially since attention spans seem to be getting shorter and shorter. This article was inspirational. https://www.chemedx.org/blog/how-use-tiktok-and-youtube-shorts-your-chemistry-class
There is one thing about it being voluntary to create. But they’re pushing YT Shorts down both content creators and viewers throats.
As a former teacher and mentor, I agree with the thought to make content more interesting and digestible for the younger generation. What I don’t agree with is packaging everything into mindless kick-rewarding (dopamine hitting) bits, like Candy Crush, One armed bandits or Tik Tok videos.
If you package too much study content into this kind of easily digestible and forgettable bits, you have to remember: it flows out from their minds almost as fast as they spent the effort to see it… maybe it lasted longer if they shared it with their friends/network, but the lesson you wanted them to absorb will mostly disappear faster than the time it took you to create it.
We work (and should work) to create (at least some) lasting impressions that educate. The most memorable moment that one of my study groups had with one of their “cool TikTok and Fortnite savvy” teachers was when they did candy flossing after it stopped being cool. What lessons he taught? They couldn’t remember if it was English or Math.
Sorry for my rant. I digressed.
I love the rant. Titrating (pardon the pun) content to kids and having them engage properly is such a big battle.
Ya, let's keep shortening everyone's attention span... Hate all short form videos!
In case someone likes the content of YT shorts but can't stand the web player: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/439993-youtube-shorts-redirect
Turns shorts into "normal" videos. Still the same orientation but at least a player that doesn't loop and even applies SponsorBlock rules if there are any.
The most annoying thing about Shorts is that they appear right along the regular videos in /subscriptions
YouTube Revanced is a replacement for the Vanced app that is less likely to get taken down since it doesn't distribute YouTube assets
I hate shorts so much that I don't even have YouTube installed on my phone. I use libretube and newpipe on my phone. The crazy thing is YouTube of pushing shorts on desktop as well.
I'm fine with short videos, but why do they all need that terrible ui with no seek bar and fewer features than proper videos? I really hate how they don't have the previously watched ui on them. It makes keeping up with a creator impossible.
On mobile you can use extensions like uBlock Origin (content blocker) or Stylus (CSS injector) if you use some specific browsers, and use youtube.com in those: Firefox, Yandex Browser (ugh I know), or Kiwi Browser (Android-only). It's a mess, I know, but it's a solution.
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I like some YT shorts once in a while to mix it up
What about revanced ?
Revanced is the shit. Everyone should use Revanced.
Shorts are mostly just disappointing. Sometimes I don’t notice that I’m clicking a short because the title seemed interesting. Then after 30 seconds it’s already done, and all those times the content wasn’t even that good! You would think that maybe they could condense the best parts of a long video into a shorter one, but instead they just lack any depth and information.
In the same vein, the way Instagram is pushing their (autoplaying) Reels is even worse.
You would think that maybe they could condense the best parts of a long video into a shorter one
Some channels do this, and I think it's a really good use for the platform. Nerdforge is one channel that comes to mind - she has a few videos that are a 1 minute short (e.g. https://youtu.be/5QNIgDFq-vw) summarizing a 20 minute video (https://youtu.be/ZVqa7j6jG0Q)
This thread made me look up Google Chrome Youtube Short Block Extension, installed, working, easy peasy lemon squeezy
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Revanced Manager has a patch option to hide shorts from the feed, it's not much but it is something!
Just use new pipe, The home page is just videos from your subscribed channels and there is no one click way to see an endless stream of shorts. You can still see them if you search them. Bonus: no ads.
What pisses me off the most is channels I used to like, stuff like Scam Nation who now repackages all their old content as shorts. And so I unsubscribe because I don't want that level of spam.
Youtube Shorts sounds like an interesting idea, that has all the problems of Tiktok, and then clutters up Youtube. It would be SO easy for people to be able to opt out of Shorts, but that's not how it works, and Youtube's UI keeps pushing them to the point where I stop looking at my notifications.
Great work Google.
Yeah, the easiest option for Google/YT would be to keep Shorts to the Shorts category only/mainly, and keep the ability for users to opt out of Shorts in the platform’s players. That way, creators who want to push 5 to 30 second videos instead of 10 - 200 minutes would still get their 15 ~~minutes~~ seconds of fame.
But now, they aren’t just pushing Shorts on us viewers, they are forcing channels to do Shorts to get better visibility.
I do actually find some interesting shorts every now and then after avoiding them for years. However it completely fucks up my recommendations and you can't remove them from the watch list as easily...
So if I watch a couple I'll be suggested shorts for a week or so...
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