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Targeting intelligence — the information used to conduct airstrikes and fire long-range artillery weapons — has played a central role in Israel’s siege of Gaza. A document obtained through the Freedom of Information Act suggests that the U.S. Air Force sent officers specializing in this exact form of intelligence to Israel in late November.

...on November 21, the U.S. Air Force issued deployment guidelines for officers, including intelligence engagement officers, headed to Israel. Experts say that a team of targeting officers like this would be used to provide satellite intelligence to the Israelis for the purpose of offensive targeting. 

“They’re probably targeting people, targeting officers,” Lawrence Cline, who served as an intelligence engagement officer in Iraq before retirement, told The Intercept. Targeting intelligence refers to the identification and characterization of enemy activities including missile and artillery launches, location of leadership and command and control centers, and key facilities. “What I can see is we’ve got a lot of global assets in terms of satellites and the like and the Israelis have a lot in terms of more localized radar coverage.”

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[–] givesomefucks 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

the U.S. Air Force issued deployment guidelines for officers, including intelligence engagement officers, headed to Israel. Experts say that a team of targeting officers like this would be used to provide satellite intelligence to the Israelis for the purpose of offensive targeting

So there's wasn't even a reason for them to be there?

Israel leveled most of Gaza, what good is aiming when you're trying to hit everything?

And why are our only two options for presidents people that will support genocide?

Republicans won't give a shit, but some Dems have standards and this shit depress turnout

[–] Keeponstalin 18 points 10 months ago

“I’ve directed my team to share intelligence and deploy additional experts from across the United States government to consult with and advise the Israeli counterparts on hostage recovery efforts,” said President Joe Biden three days after the Hamas attack.

Several weeks before they issued experts to help with hostage recovery efforts, allegedly. Which would be fair if that was the case, but there is no valid reason to assist Israel with their bombing campaign on Palestinians and gaza infrastructure.

I agree Biden is a terrible choice. We absolutely deserve other choices in a primary. But in a national vote between Trump and Biden, I'll have no choice but to vote Biden. What a pathetic excuse for a democracy we have. I guess it's kinda always been this way looking back at American history, it's just so much more blatant now

[–] JustZ -2 points 10 months ago

They are probably consulting on bunker busting.

[–] SinningStromgald 28 points 10 months ago

...has played a central role in Israel’s ~~siege~~ genocide of Gaza.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So either American targeting intelligence is absolutely garbage, or Americans are complicit in Israel's genocide.

[–] Sterile_Technique 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's a blatant misrepresentation of the situation!

.......there's no 'either'.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

You're right, my bad.

[–] Copernican 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm having trouble connecting this paragraph about US provided intelligence for targets:

“They’re probably targeting people, targeting officers,” Lawrence Cline, who served as an intelligence engagement officer in Iraq before retirement, told The Intercept. Targeting intelligence refers to the identification and characterization of enemy activities including missile and artillery launches, location of leadership and command and control centers, and key facilities. “What I can see is we’ve got a lot of global assets in terms of satellites and the like and the Israelis have a lot in terms of more localized radar coverage.”

With this paragraph about how Israel selects targets:

The Israeli military intentionally strikes Palestinian civilian infrastructure, known as “power targets,” in order to “create a shock,” according to an investigation by the Israeli news website +972 Magazine. Targets are generated using an artificial intelligence system known as “Habsora,” Hebrew for “gospel.”

This makes it sound like US engagement is trying to identify military targets that follow some criteria of what a military target is. But Israel is doing their own thing using AI?

[–] chitak166 11 points 10 months ago

Meanwhile, "US assistance to Ukraine has ‘ground to a halt’"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A document obtained through the Freedom of Information Act suggests that the U.S. Air Force sent officers specializing in this exact form of intelligence to Israel in late November.

“I’ve directed my team to share intelligence and deploy additional experts from across the United States government to consult with and advise the Israeli counterparts on hostage recovery efforts,” said President Joe Biden three days after the Hamas attack.

Targeting intelligence refers to the identification and characterization of enemy activities including missile and artillery launches, location of leadership and command and control centers, and key facilities.

This ban has been interpreted to include wartime targeting of civilians, according to a recent Foreign Affairs article by Brian Finucane, a former legal adviser for the State Department who now works for Crisis Group.

“For air advisory missions, which I imagine involve intelligence sharing and training, specific domestic legal restrictions such as the Leahy law and the assassination ban would likely come into play,” McBrien said.

Past administrations have also provided detailed public information about U.S. targeting support for the Saudi and Emirati military campaigns in Yemen, which U.S. officials claim was meant to reduce civilian casualties.


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