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Fake. Counting cards (in blackjack) isn't a good way to make money. It involves large changes in your bet size that make it extremely obvious. If you're bad at it, places will let you do it while you lose money. If you're actually good at it (he's not), they'll kick you out. It's an obvious thing that places don't put up with if you're winning.
Op is counting 52 cards in a basement game, he's found his calling, until he encounters a shoe
Or worse.
For his sake, I hope he takes his winnings so far and walks.
Clowning on a bunch of underground gambling rings is a good way to end up on a lot of shitlists of a lot of less than scrupulous people.
It’s really hard to do in casinos too. They often use something like six decks and shuffle well before they’re through it.
It's not impossible to count a standard 6 or 8 deck but with dealers moving at 90mph it's fuckin hard
It's absolutely possible to make good money counting cards. There's a great series by Steven Bridges on YouTube where he goes through the process of counting cards in action, in several different casinos in different states and countries, both alone and with team-play.
No it doesn't involve abnormal shifts in betting. Only idiots would move from $5 directly to $100 per hand. Average gamblers start small and get excited too.
If you do it slowly, starting at the minimum and getting "excited" when the deck is rich in tens, no one will notice or care. Play $5 to $50 and order a drink.
The average card counter is a young single dude in a baseball cap drinking a water. Wear a fun outfit, get a free drink, and talk to the dealer. No one will notice.
And yes, you can count a shoe. You just need to find a dealer that deals about 70% of the cards.
I mean. Temporarily.
While the profits rolled in, so did the "heat" from the casinos, and many MIT Team members were identified and barred. These members were replaced by fresh players from MIT, Harvard, and other colleges and companies, and play continued. Eventually, investigators hired by casinos realized that many of those they had banned had addresses in or near Cambridge, and the connection to MIT and a formalized team became clear. The detectives obtained copies of recent MIT yearbooks and added photographs from it to their image database
I'd argue that getting away with it for 20yrs means they were still pretty successful.
past two months
In the OP implies this wasn't twenty years ago.
So? I was replying to a comment that said it wasn't a good way to make money. I gave an example of a group using it to make money for 20yrs. I'd argue that that proves it can be a good way to make money.
Oh, I meant it's not a good way to make money now. I wasn't speaking for 1990.
If you're actually good at it (he's not), they'll kick you out.
I never understood why this isn't allowed. Just seems like getting good at the game to me
Just seems like getting good at the game to me
Because it isn't sportsmanship that they're interested in it's getting all your cash. They don't give a damn about the integrity of the game or anything like that.
Card games basically don't have integrity.
Because the whole point of a casino is to take your money.
I like how he went to a poker night and figured out he's good at blackjack. Sounds like his friends wanted to gift him some money even though the idiot couldn't even figure out what game they are playing.
This is known as "The Chandler" method.
I do love a game of cups!
I see people latch onto that detail. I find it plausible that some guys having a "poker night" might play other card games in addition to poker. Play a few hands of 5 card draw, some 7 card stud, maybe a round of blackjack or two.
A friend's poker party had blackjack? Sounds weird
Almost as if this was made up.
You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
Also the buy in was apparently $5 but the winnings are in euros
He specifically said "bucks" which had me wondering if they even use that slang across the pond.
It happens when people's primary sources for learning English are american tv shows
There's a sizable minority of male zoomers into gambling in some countries, tightly related to the proliferation of small casinos in working-class neighbourhoods through a historical period where typical socialization spaces have been getting dismantled. I met a guy whose friend group's main activity for socialization was going to gambling and his life was pretty much a mess, roughly around the same as the guy from the green text.
This started with grey-market online poker in the early 2000s. In my big lecture classes, there would always be a dozen or so people just playing online poker, and I knew lots of people who got so sucked into it they dropped out of school
If you're going to be a "professional" gambler. You need to be a PROFESSIONAL.
That means ledgers, records, receipts, keeping track of travel expenses, meals... its easy to lie to yourself about how you're really doing.
Also a lot of professional gamblers lose a grip on what a dollar is worth, because this week they are $60,000 up and just bought themselves a brand new car, and in 2 months they havent hit a decent win in weeks and are selling the car to make their rent.
Also, you cant put it on your resume. About the only place that might care if you're a professional or semi professional gambler is a casino if you're looking for a job. In that case the ledgers might be able to prove that you know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to gambling. But beyond that you arent really building to a career. So either git gud or have a backup plan.
Good luck OP.
just generally not a good person
Is fucking sending me. At least anon is in touch with themselves.
Don't casinos use something like seven decks simultaneously to make card counting super hard to impossible?
Usually yes, but some casinos do offer low deck shoes as a way to attract players.
Because you would need to be a class 9 sperd to capitalize on the odd differential.
Not really. Counting cards is easy.
2-6 = +1
7-9 = 0
10-Ace= -1
Bet more when the running total is positive.
It’s not impossible, a big shoe just makes it much more difficult. There are a not insignificant number of people who make a living gambling at casinos with varying degrees of success.
It makes the initial state of the shoe harder to determine. And it makes it more obvious when people are sitting around watching the tables to infer that state.
If you're using a random number of decks what's even the skill? You might as well go to a slot machine
That's the thing, they don't want skill to be involved. It's gambling. The house wants to win.
> Get beaten to a pulp outside an underground casino for counting cards.
Still a loser..1000 a month barely going to keep you alive homegirl
Sounds like a pretty decent job to me
My younger brother counts all 52 cards without effort when playing Bridge, he's an ace at mental math, has zero facial expressions.
Could have gone pro as a poker player, said "you spend your whole life actively seeking out drunks and malcontents".
Ended up an IP lawyer, I guess the pay is more regular.
1000/month? It is gambling still, anon won't keep this up.
Yeah their winnings are so light this has to be a joke. Up 2k is a lucky run lol