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[–] ChemicalPilgrim 148 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe they should have left us a better world if they wanted their genetic line to continue lol

[–] Machiia 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Those damn Canadian's know what they did!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I blame the agricultural revolution.

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[–] Phoenix3875 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a good idea to not have kids with your siblings.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I asked my wife if she wanted kids and she just waved around and said "look at this shit, do you really want to put a someone through this?" Yep, the world is screwed. But I believe people have to make their own, conscious choice. No sense in forcing them to either have kids or not.

[–] Anticorp 25 points 1 year ago (9 children)

My wife and I were planning to have kids in 2020. We had already started the process in 2019. Then covid happened. Then people hoarded toilet paper during a respiratory pandemic that doesn't even affect your bowels. Then supply lines shut down. Then forest fires raged out of control across the country, turning the skies into red ash. Then protests and riots broke out across the country. All the while trump was happening about eleventy billion times. Ultimately we got a master class on how fucking ridiculous this world has become. We decided never to have kids. We're already middle aged, so that's it for us. It's too late now. We occasionally consider adopting, but that's a whole other bag of cats.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Saaame. We decided to adopt the cats instead 🤣

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[–] kamenlady 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We had a long talk about it and the above statement is just the gist of it. If we lived in better times, sure. But not in this timeline. We both came to that conclusion and it is perfectly fine.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not to butt in your business, but if that's your only reason to not have children, and you're otherwise financially capable and willing to raise kids, have you two considered adoption? Instead of bringing someone extra into this shit as you put it, you'd just be helping one of the people who're unfortunately already in it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry for the late reply, was night here. Yes, we actually thought about that. But while it is easy to just have a kid, adoption (at least here in Germany where you only have around 4000 adoptions per year) comes with quite the list of requirements. We are both working full time and just recently found a very nice apartment, but without a seperate room for a kid. Then again my wife is a kindergarten teacher, so she already has like 20 kids ;)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck yes. Thank you for doing your part to not make this place worse for your woulda-been kids and for me.

[–] JackFrostNCola 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The sad part of this is the people here with the critial thinking and reasoning skills to make that descision are the ones not passing on those attributes, but its the low income & education people are the ones who cant even think far enough ahead to wear a fucking condom.

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[–] derf82 49 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Not sorry at all. These genetics are just a dead end. I’m making the human race better. Addition by subtraction.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

I know!

Considering my ridiculously high-magnification contact lenses, my ancestors have no idea what I’m up to. They couldn’t even see across the room.

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[–] cosmicrookie 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (31 children)

Not one of them cares tbh. Besides, not having kids, is the best environmental friendly option of them all.

I'd guess that having children, in the long run is more environmentally harmful than you eating meat the rest of your life.

[–] ransomwarelettuce 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty much.

"Oh ... But I want kids", adopt why bringing another being to this fuckshow when u could improve the life of one currently in the bottom of the barrel.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Most do care imo. This Christmas with relatives it was asked many times like no one cares about any other part of my life

[–] cosmicrookie 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Most of your ancestors are dead. And even among the living ones I'd argue that the majority don't really care. Never the less, who cares if they do.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (8 children)

At this point I think I'll just adopt. Plenty of kids to go around, no need to make more.

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[–] FlyingSquid 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Also, I said this before as a parent and I will say it again- please do not have children unless you really want children. No child deserves to go through their childhood neglected and unloved. Which is going to be a major result of the end of Roe v. Wade in the U.S. and why abortion rights are vital.

No one should have to be a parent unless they absolutely want to be a parent.

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[–] OldQWERTYbastard 28 points 1 year ago

Who can afford kids these days?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not your ancestors' only descendant

[–] Anticorp 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is not uncommon for someone to be the last person in their lineage.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There are few things sweeter than sleeping in on a Saturday and waking up to a clean, quiet house.

You couldn't pay me to trade that for some whiny, entitled little brat.

[–] Todgerdickinson 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can’t quantify the feeling of having kids until you have one, but it’s very easy to articulate the perceived drawbacks of said unknown. They bring a life buff like nothing else, speaking a someone who regularly chases altered states of consciousness.

They provide a large opportunity for some enormous maturation, removal of bitterness/edgelord-iness and to not be so self-centred.

Your description of kids sounds like me beforehand. Have 2 happy accidents now.

Lie-ins are still possible if you are actually in a decent relationship by the way. To anybody reading, don’t have kids if you are in a bad one. No kid deserves to grow up around that.

[–] FlashMobOfOne 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I grew up in a family with eighteen kids. If having such a huge family is good for anything, it's that I don't have the romantic veneer that most people do when it comes to childrearing.

I know exactly how expensive and hard it is, and just how much it sucks.

[–] Sarmyth 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Your life experience is actually so extreme that you don't know exactly how hard it is or how much it sucks. Your experience is not going to be representative of 99.9% of the populace.

You should basically never use your family life experiences growing as a reference point because of how extremely unusual it is. This is the equivalent of complaining about how hard it is to drive around town in the truckasaurus.

Unless you are intentionally misrepresenting a foster home, which is again different than having your own child or 2.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There are few things sweeter than sleeping in on a Saturday and waking up to a clean, quiet house.

Waking up early, making pancakes for a couple of gleeful little munchkins, and then going out to the park to run around and have fun is one of those things you forget you used to love doing when you were younger.

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[–] FlyingSquid 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Adolf Hitler had a sister who emigrated to England before the war and had two kids. Both kids actually fought in the war against their uncle with no one aware of who they were. They both agreed to never have children.

And that's why there are no more Hitlers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Unlike Mussolinis and Yamatos.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Vasectomy is up there in the top 5 best things to happen in my life.

Highly recommend if you are sure you want to go child-free. There is nothing quite so worry free as shooting blanks instead of using condoms and birth control.

[–] CaptPretentious 13 points 1 year ago

When I was a teenager I wanted kids. I fully bought into 'the American dream' being sold. I'd get me a wife, kids, house, and a career. Helped that I actually like kids. Made it my life's goal to try to be the best provider, best dad, best husband I could be.

Put myself through college, I have a good career, bought a house when I was 24, and still love kids. But I gave up on dating when I was like 28(?). It just became not worth it for so many reasons.

This last fall marked 20 years since I left my hometown to start my life... And I felt like a failure (still do). I exist to work and pay bills.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jazz is an anti-natalist confirmed

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