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Europe plans to build the world’s fastest supercomputer in 2024 (www.newscientist.com)

submitted 11 months ago by boem to c/technology

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (7 children)

"Europe is planning", not a company, not a national agency nor an EU agency, but the whole of Europe? How does that work? I mean we're pretty much at war, but Russia and Belarus is in on it? How much are Andorra, Monaco, and The Sovereign Order of St. John contributing? What about Overseas France? Do all 13 territories kick in, or is it only the ones that are part of the EU?

Also isn't a new super computer record set several times each year?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

European High-Performance Computing Joint Undertaking (EuroHPC JU). 26/27 EU members participating. and some non EU members..

[–] affiliate 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

oh, you didnt hear? yeah all of us europeans got together and unanimously decided we might give the US a run for their money

[–] TheDarkKnight 5 points 11 months ago

Did you guys just bake a really long bagette and invite everyone over to discuss the proposal?

[–] EarMaster 4 points 11 months ago

Every 3.171 years all EU citizens get together on a field near Gelnhausen in Germany and discuss current projects. Everyone brings snacks and drinks and all tasks are distributed evenly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Can't even read the article and find out because it's paywalled.

[–] Cocodapuf 1 points 11 months ago

Plus, this would still only be the fastest supercomputer that the public knows about... There are others, but security agencies don't share stats on them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I heard y'all are gonna do some sort of European Hands Across America where you're gonna collectively yeet one computer straight up towards the sun. Its airtime will tell you how fast it went. Anything more than 9 seconds is a Super Computer. More than 13 seconds is a Super Duper Computer.

My cousin told me that one kid at his school back in 2009 did their own computer throw at home that stayed in the air for 5 seconds and that's when entire companies were only getting 3.4 seconds max.

[+] themurphy -14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Dude, do you think every time something happens in the US, that all states are in on it?

"The US plans to be the biggest exporter of silicon in 2030". Do you read that the same way?

[–] alpha_dog 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The US is a country. Europe isn’t.

[–] CheeseNoodle 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The US is 50 countries in a trenchcoat really, some of which would go to war with eachother outside the coat.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then Europe is a bunch of countries wearing a bikini and lots of accessories. There's no one part that covers all of it, some accessories strongly clash with each other and you have random bracelets everywhere.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There's no one part that covers all of it,

So the EU parliament isn't a thing then?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The EU doesn't include a bunch of countries on the continent of Europe

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A pedantic point. Europe has become a synonym for EU in journalism.

It's an EU strategy.

[–] alpha_dog 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What makes you think it’s some form of nefarious strategy and not simply lazy journalism?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I didn't mean "GET THE TIN FOIL! IT'S AN EU CONSPIRICY". I meant "The article is discussing an EU development programme".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

A lot of European countries aren't in the EU. Turkey, the UK, Norway and a bunch more.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"The US plans to be the biggest exporter of silicon in 2030".

At least you boiled it down to a single country, with national agencies and a government that makes strategies. Like a strategy to be the biggest exporter of silicon, which can result in laws and regulations encouraging silicon exports.

But a whole continent building a super computer? That's just a bad title. And reading the linked article doesn't give you any additional information, without signing up for a newsletter?!?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Europe has government and agencies on the European scale. They often make strategies and fund initiative like this with European government funds. They might also influence European legislation to encourage things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Europe has government and agencies on the European scale.

Since when? AFAIK there's a European Union and then there's Europe the continent. Lots of countries in Europe are not part of the union, and given the suffix of your instance you should be aware of this.

[–] themurphy 1 points 11 months ago

This is true, I was wrong. My bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm very aware that the EU doesn't encompass all countries in Europe, but when reading a story where they ascribe a action to the continent I read the word Europe as a synonym for EU. It's fairly common, especially in an American magazine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

More like 'North America plans to be the biggest exporter of silicon in 2030.'

[–] Jakdracula 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How fast? Like, run a 100 meter dash in 2 seconds fast?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Supercomputer The Hedgehog

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

For anyone wanting to read more: https://eurohpc-ju.europa.eu/index_en