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This is a reminder to lemmy users, that this new meta expriement will use the ActivityPub protocol, meaning that it can interact with other lemmy instances, please urge your lemmy instance admins to de-federate from this crap as soon as it launches!
But why? Isn't the whole point of federation that we can interact with people in other communities? Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub? Completely walling them off seems counterproductive
Not defending Meta, just curious
there is a very good chance that this project by meta is the thin end of the wedge
(edited to include "the blogpost", link here)
Interesting and I'd say you're right. If you were to see a mass adoption of the fediverse (such as Twitter imploding and mastadon becoming the replacement) there would be an immediate attempt by the big tech players to gain control of it in some way. And this is exactly how they would try to do it.
Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?
No. We don't. The more hands they have in the fediverse pie, the more influence they have over it. The more influence they have, the more control. The more control, the more at the whim of their decisions you are. The more at the whim of their decisions, the more power they have over you.
This should be common sense at this point.
Donβt we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?
I certainly don't. I abandoned Facebook years ago because of how BS they were getting with privacy concerns and social manipulation. Last thing I want is to bring those dumpster fires here. They join the platform, I will migrate to whichever Instances defed them or leave Lemmy entirely if necessary. Simply put, it's been a breathe of rational, civil air here. While it is early days keeping that hostile-to-humanity crap out of here is obvious minimum we should be doing.
jUsT gIvE mETa A cHAnCe iN tHe fEdIVeRsE DuRRrrpH
Meta rolling into the fediverse like the martians in Mars Attacks.
βDonβt run! Weβre youβre your friends!β
Yeah, he's a big fan of access. May as well just make an extra category marked "everything".
That's the reason they wanted to make their own phone. They wanted it all
Isn't that just...everything?
Like is there anything they aren't requesting?
Don't forget to report it inside Play Store. All of these permissions are not required, thus the app is breaking store rules.
I run a pair of PiHole instances for DNS on my home network, and I periodically check the logs and look up blocked domains that I don't recognize. Every single time, it's a service that provides telemetry for mobile apps. It's insane how much data apps try to collect.
I bet they said something like "we don't use most of that information, we just need access in case we add a new feature in the future that uses it". And then it'll come out that they've always been using it, and it's been associated with your identifying info. And then their server will be hacked (because the admin password was "meta123") and the all the info will leak. The modern internet sucks.
I'm asking myself how people can accept these conditions. There is a huge work of education on privacy to be done.
Why do all of Zucc companies terms and conditions have this air of desperation and grubbiness about them? π
No other services feel as slimy even though they're all doing mostly the same things.
Meta feels like you're interacting with a drug addicted stalker following you home
Do not trust apps like this. Facebook mined this shit without any warning originally.
Crazy thought, but people don't need Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, any Twitter replacement, etc. I.e. ya'll don't need 'social media'.
Anyone know Meta's track record with data?
It's got to be great if they ask for all this /s
Let's not forget that they were fined $5 billion for deliberately misleading users about how their personal data was used in regard to the Cambridge Analytica scandal that effectively swayed over 200 elections all over the world, including both Brexit and Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.
Seriously, everyone seems to have forgotten about that shit and it's fucking insane.
What "Other Data"?! Want my fuckin horoscope Zuck? How about the results of my last rectal exam? fuckin hell
It's gratifying seeing this because usually when I see these kinds of worrying data permissions it's because a service I really want or need is being held hostage until I agree to this false choice and I have to start figuring out whether there's some way around this or if I'm going to have to embarrassingly explain to someone why I can't use this service they expected me to sign up to.
But then I see this and it's for something I'd never want to sign up to anyway and it's just like a list of dodged bullets. π So nice to just laugh at their bullshit.
Fuck off Zuck you fucking weirdo
Why does Zuck want to know the browser histories of people on the internet? π³
If the general public was just aware of how much privacy they lose by downloading these apps, companies like Meta would never be able to get away with stuff like this.
I doubt it. Most of the time when I point out to someone just how much data they're giving up the response is just "so what if a chinese person knows about me"
Privacy for its own sake has lost value with the younger generations. What we really need to do is educate on the consequences and dangers of the lack of privacy.
It hasn't lost its value. Privacy is still important to them as it always was. It's just been distorted a bit.
Anytime someone acts flippant about privacy, ask them to unlock their phone and hand it to you. Look through all of their messages, emails, photos, etc. See how quickly privacy matters. Tell them to shower with the door open or go to the bathroom while you watch.
Tell them you'll accompany them to their doc appointments.
People want privacy. People need it.