IDK, if this community has any hope of being anywhere near as comprehensive in coverage as the News Subreddits were its going to take some superusers.
this post was submitted on 26 Dec 2023
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A super user is not a spammer.
If you think that 19 is a lot of news articles for the whole planet in a single day, enough that it counts as spam, then my friend have I got news for you :-(
19 isn't a lot for the planet, but it is a lot for a single user.
We'd rather the front page be representative of what MULTIPLE people think is important, not just one person, otherwise we might as well just turn it over to a bot pulling from the Google News algorithm.
I agree one person can't properly sample the world stage of news.
if this community has any hope of being anywhere near as comprehensive in coverage as the News Subreddits
I left Reddit on purpose.
I would rather have quality than volume.
I would rather my news feed be diverse than dominated by one or two self-appointed influencers of discourse. (Even if they have good intentions.)
I approve of this rule. Ten articles per person each day is more than enough at this stage, and the threshold for "too much" can always be adjusted as the community grows.
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I get why these mods didn't like that users posts but this is such a dumb way to to put in a prevention rule. Especially when they even admit it wasn't spam.
Why artificially limit how much people can interact to get traffic to a community?
Just like if you saw the front page filled only with articles from the same source, seeing the front page filled with posts by the same username gives the impression that someone is pushing an agenda.
I mentioned this myself in a post I made regarding Myanmar, I have a personal angle on that and if it seems like I yammer on too much about Myanmar, feel free to tell me to shut up. :)
I saw different sources but feels more like a lack of others posting issue rather than just someone pushing an agenda
This community censors Al Jazeera posts by calling them "duplicates" and leaves up the least anti-Israel post.
I highly doubt it cares about being comprehensive in coverage
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It's also really obvious when they're all from the same news source or very closely related ones.
I only post a couple a day at most, but I also try to vary the news sources I'm using, so I'm not just promoting one news organization's stance.
Even alternating sources, it's still a reflection of that users opinion of what they feel is important and needs promotion... So, yeah. 19 is a bit much.
19 articles still seems like reasonable usage to me. Spam or abuse would probably be a bit higher than that and likely include off topic and duplicate links.
That was the question I put to the other mods... "Heyyy... we don't exactly have a rule for this, 19 seems like a lot..."
We collectively decided on 10, but this is all new, it might change!
The prime focus is making sure no single user dominates the front page. How big the "front page" is varies by app though.
Posting a shit ton of full text news articles is gonna get the instance DCMA’d
What is the difference between one person doing it 20 times and 20 different people doing it once?
I didn’t say either was good/better/whatever. Regardless of who’s doing it, if the news forums here just start posting full text articles like crazy, eventually the instance will get smacked down for it.
Posting full articles is probably not great, but the number of posts per time unit probably shouldn't be limited unless it's causing a technical issue. It's news content. That's why we're subscribed.
Maybe poster is out of work right now, following the news closely, posting what seems important. Surely 10-100 important news items happen each day.
In my opinion the volume of posts isn't the problem, but copy pasting full text from a site is the issue.
Copy/pasting the full text of an article breaks the rules at the lemmy.world level, that's already been accounted for in the Sidebar rules.
I dunno. I personally have no problem with someone just copying what's posted on Reddit here.
At least until there's more engagement.
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As long as they are getting them from credible sources I don't see no harm but actually a huge plus for the community. This community is one of the most successful transition-from-you-know-where and huge part of that is thanks to few who posts.
Let's see if we can make this place better.
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Is this about that account called "nonaturalgas" or something? Anyway somehow that one always felt off . So good job.
Correction: it's name was naturalgasbad and he was also banned. Some other poster stated he posted several pro China articles a day.
No, they only posted twice that I'm aware of.
This one isn't about the quality of the links, the links themselves appear to be fine, it's just the sheer volume.
To give you some idea, I moderate some smaller communities and I personally feel like I'm dominating the conversation if I post more than 3 links in a day...
Roll over to World News and I see 19... 🙄
Naturalgas posts about 5-10 pro-China pieces a day.
Honestly I feel like Nekandro is just their alt account , the types of posts felt too similar.
They definitely do seem to push certain agendas based on the topics. I already keep an eye on him too, especially since he's on Lemmy.ml which is just Lemmygrad in disguise.
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