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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15286301

"A group of Republican lawmakers introduced a bill on Wednesday which would send “any person convicted of unlawful activity” at a college or university, to do community service in Gaza for six months."

"Strangely, the bill appears to refer to any “unlawful activity on the campus of an institution of higher education beginning on and after October 7, 2023” but does not specifically mention the ongoing student protests, rendering it stupidly broad."

"Ogles spoke with Fox News about the bill, saying that, “If you support a terrorist organization, and you participate in unlawful activity on campuses, you should get a taste of your own medicine. I am going to bet that these pro-Hamas supporters wouldn’t last a day, but let’s give them the opportunity.”

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

I mean, they probably know there's no chance in hell of that bill gaining traction let alone passing (for so many reasons ‡). It's all performance / pandering to their base in an election year.

The scary takeaway should be that's what the Republican base wants to hear.

‡ The fact that you can't just "deport" a citizen to a random country is the least of the things logically wrong with this bill.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Can we get a bill started that says if you support any war, you have to be enlisted to fight on the front lines of it?

I stand by the fact that there would be way fewer warhawks if they had to put their money where there mouths are.

Cowardsw

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Yeah, that one I could get behind.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

100% of the population must vote to go to war or not.

Everyone is notified beforehand that a vote of Yes is also immediate enlistment into the military for the duration of said conflict.

No more shouting "hell yeah turn the middle east into a parking lot" from the comfort of your armchair or lifted pickup.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That would be great if we could get most governments to pass the same rule. If adversarial governments aren't restricted by the same rules then it tips the power balance in a way that favors foreign warhawks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I feel like enough people would be willing to step up and defend their own country.

Defensive wars almost always have high approval ratings.

This is America though, we will end up tearing ourselves apart from the inside, no outside entity has the power to wage wars over an ocean to invade us.

We are naturally in one of the most defensible spots, with both mineral and arable resources

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I'll 100% grab a rifle to help defend my neck of the woods, but no way in hell am I supporting an offensive war.

Never Again Volunteer Yourself, but in a defensive war it's no longer capitalism and the military industrial complex you're "defending", it's your neighbors.

[–] njm1314 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It'd be nice if they stopped wasting money on things that they knew were unconstitutional though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

"Arooo, that may be so. But I know a place where the Constitution doesn't mean squat!"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think we should always take these bills as serious attempts to accomplish what they say. Anything else gives them cover, like:

https://piped.video/watch?v=VYHGnsOwHvI

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Next year they could pass this and the Supreme Court could approve it. Imagine still believing in guardrails...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Just wait until next year. I wonder if you're post will seem silly or prophetic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

As with any statement I make when I make fun of Republicans, I sincerely hope it turns out to be silly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The left need to stop being scared of guns, stop voting for useless gun control measures that only restrict control in their own district and do nothing to reduce crime (meanwhile right wing districts allow you to buy an arsenal of nice ergonomic firearms that can allow even a morbidly obese diabetic to accurately shoot the dick off a fly, delivered to your front door like Amazon), start forming left wing LGBTQIA+ friendly militias and train to protect themselves.

We can do that, or hope the boot lickers and cops don't persecute us. Which is the same as sending hopes and prayers on Facebook.

[–] ceiphas 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How can anybody believe that more guns is the only possible solution for everything?

If your only tool is a hammer, every screw starts to look like a nail.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

It’s another tool for the toolbox. How can being more prepared with a more diverse set of tools be bad for any situation? Right now the only tool seems to be posting outraged comments on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Ding ding ding. Authoritarian governments never disarm the right. The police have shown that they won't protect you, if they're not actively joining in on it.

We protect us.