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So excited to consolidate my mess of drives and get a big boost to my storage.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

Don't forget to back up to other additional drives!

Consolidating all your data into one drive is very convenient, but if you aren't backing it all up then it's only a matter of time until you lose everything. If you're gonna have a bunch of small drives hanging out you can use them as a backup. You could even set them up into a RAID, but I've never actually done that so i can't vouch for it

[–] IndiBrony 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

So, oddly enough, I rarely ever back things up. I will back up things that I absolutely cannot afford to lose, but other than that my general thoughts are to leave my data in the hands of the HDD gods.

Sometimes it's good to have an unexpected clear out... But only sometimes.

I'm also aware that this could entirely just a "me" thing.

[–] Jarix 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I save hardrives from old computers because "i might lose something important!"

Im a digital hoarder. I back up my digital existence by buy a new harddrive big enough my old collection fits under like 10 percent of the new drive.

And keep all the old drives.

Theorically if the oldest drives are still readable, ill never have to worry about losing the oldest information to ransomware.

But ive been holding onto some data since before ibm released pentium. Im actually afraid to look at what i have from being a 12 year old on the internet without supervision...

[–] IndiBrony 4 points 7 months ago

To be fair, the one thing I lost that I wish I'd been able to back up was my blog which I shared on MySpace back in the day.

When they refurbished the site and got rid of all the old stuff, I was using a different email address so I missed my chance to back it up.

It was essentially a personal diary of what I got up to every single day in 2008/9. I would kill to be able to read through some of them again.

Alas, they are lost to time 🫡

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Man I'd love to see that archive (unless it were anything personal) lol, like a modern day library of Alexandria.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

An adrenaline junkie!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

No, I do the same. I don't really have backups at all. Some stuff I have in the cloud, but for convenience more than anything else.

I have my Windows drives encrypted with bitlocker, and I put the recovery keys in the cloud. I recently wiped the OS partition intending to retrieve the keys after reinstall, only to find the cloud provider is having an extended outage... So those drives are inaccessible for the time being. Maybe forever. I've barely missed them.

The biggest part of my data by byte is just media that I can redownload. I don't have anything life-or-death critically important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Kinda same, though I'd like to figure out how to make a raid setup to improve. Atm I just back up my absolute essentials on every drive, and my dotfiles on one (well, two including my install), my totally-not pirated stuff on another, etc. Tbh I kinda use "I can just redownload that" as a back up method lol.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You know what, that would be a perfect mother or fathers day gift every year for any data hoarder. Happy Parity Day!

[–] PainInTheAES 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or a great idea for a birthday parity!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I second this! I hope you get many years of service from your drive, but I haven't had much luck with Seagate, personally.

[–] LemmySoloHer 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Any recommendations for reliable storage? I need new drives but I've put off buying any for years with all the bad reviews and counterfeit products making me weary of any deal that seems too reasonable or model with known issues.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Any recommendations for reliable storage?

Recommendations are difficult, because reliability varies from model to model (even within the same brand) and there is no useful data until a model is more than a few years old. What we can do is follow the data available from an independent source with large sample sizes:

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/category/cloud-storage/hard-drive-stats/

My personal experience over the most recent 15 years:

  • WD mechanical drives generally offer the best balance of longevity, price, and noise among the brands I've tried.
  • Hitachi drives do well on reliability (perhaps better than WD) but can be too loud for a home environment.
  • Seagate drives fail so often that I won't use them any more, unless they're free, second-hand, and given only disposable data.
  • I have no recent experience with Toshiba.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I just did some reading, and while Seagate drives had problems around 2012 -2016, they seem to work about as well as any other drive now. I'd go for the best deal, personally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Seagate have always worked perfectly for me (knock on wood). And to avoid counterfeits i only buy hard drives from a physical store of a large retailer chain. You'll pay a little bit more, but really only a very little more, and you'll know that what you're buying is an authentic drive that came directly from the manufacturer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I've had WD since 2008 and have never had a drive die on me. My 2008 drive is currently in my system and has a error, its my torrent drive and I had 1.5 Gbit internet and just thrashed the drive and she's still plugging away. Had bought a 18tb WD Red drive and it was DOA and got sent back a UltraStar.

So no matter what YMMV

[–] Jayb151 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So what's the best way to back up a single drive?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"best" depends on the particulars of your situation. Cloud backup is one of the easiest but over time can be expensive. In the long run buying a second same-sized drive is cheaper than online backup, but it requires more money up front, and having the original and backup in the same physical location doesn't protect against local disasters like a waterpipe bursting flood. There are specialized tape drives for backups, which are cheap per mb and so you can make lots of separate backups which makes your data safer, but they're very slow to read and write. And there's other option too, like optical disks, raid arrays, etc.

Best i can really say is to do some online research to figure out what's right for your particular case.

[–] Jayb151 2 points 7 months ago

Thanks for the response! I'll have to look up some software for automatic backups.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cloud cost is pretty cheap, especially if you do cold storage.

Where they get you is egress fees.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Very interesting to know, but i just looked it up and it still seems expensive in the long run. Azure's cheapest storage tier is 1 dollar per TB per month. So 5 TB of backup would cost 60 bucks a year, but a 5 TB drive costs about 120 bucks. So after 2 years of cloud backup it costs you an extra 60 bucks a year every year vs. if you just bought a hard drive.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/storage/blobs/#pricing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yes I agree! have an TB external drive and a cloud backup on Dropbox (not my favorite but it does the job for now). I definitely need to get some better automated backup processes in place but it's a work in progress.

This bad boy is going to help a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Not everything needs backing up. If it's just your stuff from Steam, you can just grab it again if it fails.