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World’s top climate scientists expect global heating to blast past 1.5C target
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 08 May 2024
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What exactly do you predict in terms of lifestyle changes by mid century?
It isn't my personal predictions. It is the predictions made by climate scientists and even the military industrial complex (based on climate models). We've already begun to see the effects and they will get worse. Extreme weather events, massive migration, famine, drought, and war. This is what the future holds, even if developed countries can dampen the impacts for a time, they won't be immune. It isn't great.
Based on the scientific sources you’re referring to, are there any specific predictions in terms of certain numbers by certain dates?
Like are we talking 50% loss of farmland? Are we talking 50% increase in farmland? Are we talking by 2030, by 2050, by 2070, what?
I don't have specifics memorized, of course. If you'd like specifics; the EU, NOAA, UN, USDOD, EPA, NASA, etc, have all released predictions along with sources you can dive into. It has been getting worse over the last 15 years, as far as predictions.
You have the Great Depression and 2008 financial crisis. That's going to be the permanent state after 2050. Few jobs, high prices, that kind of misery.
Any quantifiable predictions? Words like “few” and “high” don’t really lead to falsifiable claims.
Of course not. You're never sure if another war starts or when another COVID happens. Nobody can make quantifiable predictions. Those that do are trying to sell you something.
Are you joking? Quantifiable predictions are the basis of science. It’s called hypothesis. It’s why we use statistics: setting numerical thresholds for significance allows us to look at ambiguous data and draw conclusions we know are free from our own perceptual biases.
Who on earth told you that quantifiable predictions are for people trying to sell you something?
Economists. It's about jobs and prices after all. It's even debated if economics is a science.