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[–] PugJesus 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A ceasefire is when both sides agree to cease firing. The article headline is quite clearly correct, but I know you aren't interested in facts.

[–] Linkerbaan 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Conveniently ignore that Hamas accepted the ceasefire deal proposed by Egypt and Qatar, which means that both israel and Hamas very well know what is in the deal.

A cease fire is when both sides stop firing. Then you need the word deal to get there. Which Hamas has accepted and israel has not.

[–] PugJesus -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Conveniently ignore that Hamas accepted the ceasefire deal proposed by Egypt and Qatar, which means that both israel and Hamas very well know what is in the deal.

And Israel says the deal Hamas agreed to isn't the deal they agreed to. Did you even read the article? Jesus Christ.

Four downvotes inside of a minute, lmao.

[–] Linkerbaan 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Good job you got there!

Hamas accepts the deal.

Israel rejects the deal.

See that's what the article title should be. Not "complicates things".

[–] Windex007 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I accept the deal in which you hand deliver me all of your money.

When should I be expecting you?

(For the record, I'm 100% in favour of Israel immediately stopping all offensive action and immediately withdrawing from Gaza and being forced to immediately let aid in)

But this particular sticking point is kinda nonsense. If both parties aren't involved in the development of the terms, then it's just a political stunt to announce you've accepted them.

Israel could JUST as easily draft their own terms, and announce they've agreed to them.

[–] Cryophilia 7 points 6 months ago

Which funny enough they did iirc

[–] Linkerbaan -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Israel could JUST as easily draft their own terms, and announce they’ve agreed to them.

[–] PugJesus -4 points 6 months ago

Linkerbaan thinks October 7th was legitimate resistance and the most precise irregular operation in modern military history. I guess all those civilians were Secret Zionist Spies. You're not going to get through to them.

[–] PugJesus -5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hamas accepts the deal. Israel's final response is uncertain - they commented that it was not the deal they agreed to, and it is not simply a matter of "Hamas has agreed, the ceasefire can go into effect". But neither is it a rejection on the Israeli side. It 'complicates things'.

Keep trying. You'll show those big bad Lamestream Media types what for eventually, right?

[–] FarmTaco 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have accepted a deal Negotiated by Qatar where @PugJesus gives me all of his money indefinitely, this will go into effect immediately.

[–] PugJesus 2 points 6 months ago

Joke's on you, I'm mostly made of debt!

[–] Linkerbaan 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Is israel does not accept the ceasefire and invades Rafah after the proposal...

Then israel rejects the deal.

We're not in a stalemate position. We're talking about ignoring it and commencing a massively invasion to Genocide thousands of Palestinians

The mental Gymnastics you're willing to do to defend israels Genocide is absolutely astounding.

The new deal accepted by Hamas was even brokered with massive American involvement:

The officials claimed CIA director Bill Burns and other Biden administration officials who are involved in the negotiations knew about the new proposal but didn't tell Israel.

Between the lines: Two Israeli officials said Israel is deeply suspicious that the Biden administration gave guarantees to Hamas through the Egyptian and Qatari mediators about its key demand that a hostage deal will lead to the end of the war.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

You lost man. Just stop.

[–] PugJesus -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The mental Gymnastics you’re willing to do to defend israels Genocide is absolutely astounding.

lmao

"The article headline, that the agreement of Hamas creates uncertainty over the ceasefire deal, is literally correct"

"YOU'RE DEFENDING GENOCIDE"

Absolute brainrot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Check how many times this dude has been banned for misinformation. It’s not even funny. And now, he’s got his fan club reporting people to have comments removed for disagreeing with him.

[–] Linkerbaan -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Libbing all over every place to denounce anything anti israel by pretending there is nuance in this situation that we must see from both sides at places where none is to be seen. Defending any and all propaganda as if it is justified where any person paying the slightest amount of attention can see the glaring double standards.

MLK wrote a letter for you

[–] PugJesus 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Libbing all over every place to denounce anything anti israel by pretending there is nuance in this situation that we must see from both sides at places where none is to be seen. Defending any and all propaganda as if it is justified where any person paying the slightest amount of attention can see the glaring double standards.

Keep making shit up about a longtime Israel critic who has been calling this a genocide since before Oct 7, maybe some of it will stick, lmao.

[–] TrickDacy -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There it is once again. "If you disagree with me, you support genocide"

Does it ever get tiring, contorting every conversation into that exact same posture? Or is the pay enough to make it worth your while?

[–] Linkerbaan 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A tireless israel and literal Genocide defender in the less nuanced sense showing up to defend libs is not a great look. I'm arguing with libs right now they don't need a Nazionist on their side to make them look bad.

[–] TrickDacy -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lol I just criticized you for doing this bullshit and your response was to go way harder.

anyone who dares to disagree with you is a Nazi who loves child murder.

[–] Linkerbaan 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You go through my entire post history to simp for israel. Slightly more unhinged than "disagreeing with me".

Your obsession with the victim complex manifests well.

[–] TrickDacy -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes thinking it's weird that you're so obsessed with getting trump elected means I looove Israel. Which is just a slight variation on "yoU lOvE gEnOcIdE"

A lot of people see what you're doing. It's not hard to understand

[–] Linkerbaan 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Strange I not once ever said "vote for Trump" nor have I ever endorsed Orange Man. Yet your mental gymnastics have a way to turn reality into fiction. Criticism of Genocide means people endorse Trump.

No surprise seeing this level of rhetoric from a Genocide defender that denies Genocide and supports israel.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

So, your never once having said “vote for Trump” is to be taken as a clear indicator that you don’t support him- yet you spend all day on lemmy accusing people for supporting genocide even when none of them has ever said “I support genocide.”

You don’t get to have it both ways here. If you get to accuse them, they get to accuse you. Fair is fair.

[–] TrickDacy -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That trademark "all my opponents are bloodthirsty psychopaths". Fucking fascists gonna fascist.

By this logic since I never mentioned Israel it would be impossible for me to have an opinion on Israel. Not that you would give a shit because, since I oppose you, I eat Palestinian babies

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Dude has tons of sock puppet accounts. I got downvoted 18 times within minutes of responding to this guy before.