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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad_Petroleum_Holdings#Paria_Fuel_Trading_Company_diving_tragedy

Of course, there is no direct admittance of "we knew it would be cheaper to let them die."

Instead, they say "we had no legal obligation to rescue them." That's the answer for the people who were born yesterday.

Big oil truly is a disgusting thing.

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[–] Shameless 152 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How are acts such as this not treated the same as though one person had decided to do this to 5 people? What's the point of a CEO or Director if not to step in at times like this and do the right thing? And if they don't, they face the consequences.

I understand its all legal BS that negates the responsibility, but it just doesn't seem logical regardless of how its framed.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well you see, when the people with all the money make the rules, they go out of their way to ensure they never see an inkling of the consequences of their behaviors.

It's not logical, as so many things in modern society aren't when you take a step back and think about the Why's of the way things are. But society at large is beaten down and starved enough to not question it.

"It's just the way things are"

But it's not the way things could be

[–] Plopp 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What we need is a system where the power of the guilty is used as a multiplier for their punishment, especially if they used that power in some way for their crime.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Great idea. I just wish the fixes weren't reliant on the same foxes "guarding" the hens. Also, I think they do this in a Scandinavian country with income-based fines. Would be nice, but just a pipe dream until we can do something about this stupid fucked up government!

[–] Plopp 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes Finland does it with traffic fines, and maybe other fines as well. That's sort of exactly what I meant, but with "power" being more broadly defined than just money. (for instance cops have tremendous power they could misuse but not much money)

Maybe, just maybe, we could get something like that going if we managed to focus more on the split between people top to bottom rather than left to right, or between ethnicities etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

One can hope. Unfortunately, too many are caught up in wedge-issues to solidify against the parasite class and demand change. When those same rich fucks own all the communication means and information storage, they'd just shut down our ability to coordinate if we ever grouped up to take on that group and this shit world they've created.

[–] Plopp 4 points 7 months ago

Exactly. Who cares about accumulation of wealth and power, increasing income gaps and overall disparity when there are brown and trans people, reeeee! Some sort of enlightened, broad and sustained effort is required, but people with long working ours and stress over bills don't have the time and energy to engage in all that. Tee-hee says the rich folks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

just a pipe dream

I see what you did there ;-)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Not that it matters much for this outcome, but it's a state owned oil company. It is run by Trinidad and Tobago. So replace CEO and directors with president/prime minister and parliament.