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The Middle East will never not be a horrifying shithole, especially for women. It's one of the things in this world that never changes, like the sun setting in the west and rising in the east.
At the time, compared to pretty much anywhere in Europe outside of Iberia, women in the Umayyad Caliphate (along with Jews) were given a lot of freedom. You could do things like own property and run a business if you were a woman under the Umayyads.
Women also ironically had more freedom under Saddam than they do now, because Saddam's Ba'ath party was secular.
Saddam could have turned Iraq into an example for surrounding countries but instead chose to be a tyrant dictator. The fool didn’t realise that he was sitting on a goldmine of water and oil. The only country in the region to have both oil and water in the form of a huge fucking river flowing through it. He could have made billions just selling water to his neighbours. And turned into a tourist, cultural and modern Mecca. And he was secular so it could have been such an awesome place to visit and live in. But no, he decided to be a dickhead, fight Iran until his money ran out then tried to loot Kuwait to finance his war and it went downhill from there. In an alternate timeline, Iraq could have been the greatest country in the region.
Iraq definitely had promise and Saddam did ruin things, but that doesn't mean that the Middle East will "never not be a horrifying shithole."
I agree.
People need to put down their crystal balls and learn to experience life for themselves.
So, he was an idiot. We really are run by the dumbest fucks that can be around huh?
Saddam was encouraged by the US to invade Iran. The US also provided help to Saddams nerve gas program, including "consulting" on how to use it on Iraqi Kurds, resulting in the most deadly nerve gas attack in human history. Oh and the equipment on which they made the nerve gas was supplied by Germany.
Until Saddam went into Kuwait he was heavily supported by western countries.
How are you getting downvoted for this? It has to be paid shills cos no one is that stupid.
Even with Kuwait, he was given the go ahead by Madeline Albright who apparently told him what he does in his own backyard doesn't concern the US. He was their man in the Middle East until he got too big for his britches.
Except for the 3 large population blocs that hate eachother for reasons and will do unspeakable things to one another under the guise of religion.
Saddam was just the person to rise from the party that was dominant and did what the leader of the other groups would have done to the other groups of given the chance.
Pre-1979 Iran seemed pretty decent.
You mean pre 1953 Iran. After the US, Britain and Israel couped out the democratically elected President and installed the Shah, more than 30.000 people "went missing" at the hands of the interior police which received training from CIA and Mossad.
I just meant how women could dress in Western-style clothing and whatnot.
Looks is not really the be-all-end-all of freedom.
I prefer having limits to what is considered appropriate clothing, over getting disappeared, tortured and murdered by interior police.
Also in regards to clothing, it is always interesting to take a look back at how people in the west dressed at the time and what was deemed acceptable. My father was shunned for being a "beatle" and "rowdy" for having long hair in the 70s in Germany. People at the time would get a heart attack with how people can dress nowadays.
Add also Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq to the list before all the meddling and government overthrowing. Things were a mess, but the Middle East was developed, people were educated, and there was a lot of cultural developments that last until today e.g. in music. That was going on up until like the 60s, 70s when fundamentalism as a reaction to Western interference (Iran and to an extend even Saudi Arabia as ridiculous as it sounds in 2024), or Soviet invasion (Afghanistan).
Yo this is racist!!!
It changing is one of the signs of the biblical apocalypse, so that tracks.
I guess I'm not surprised that the bible is racist /s