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[–] givesomefucks -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You act like the only two parties America has had is D and R...

And that the parties are the important part not the voters.

Before we're able to kick all the neoliberals at of the dem party and beat back republicans to have the numbers to really change our political system, we'll see the parties shake up. Marc Cuban has been getting his name out there for four years. He's coming in 2028. And regardless of who wins 2024, the majority of Americans will be upset about it and there won't be an incumbent.

"Beating the system from within" doesn't mean just using the two existing parties, it means using the party system to replace the FPTP.

[–] homesweethomeMrL -2 points 7 months ago

You act like the only two parties America has had is D and R...

It is the case, because the Constitution says whoever gets the most votes wins, i.e. First Past The Post (and yes the electoral college screwed with that immediately).

Okay, as an old I gotta tell you - you're right, but you're wrong. A third party win is a pipe dream that is never going to happen BECAUSE you'll never get a third party to outvote one of the two existing. Unless the mutated GQP does something even more upsetting and unfortunate, I guess. You might get a third nazi party that outvotes "moderates", that's possible I guess. National Socialists. Ugh.

But getting a more progressive, liberal party to peel away enough Democrats AND Republicans to win a federal election in order to change the voting structure - I mean, just wish for a pot of gold, or a new washer & dryer combo. Work towards it, of course - vote towards it, yes. But pining for it and pretending it's a viable option is going to waste decades of your political interested life for nothing. Ask everyone else who has been doing that since the 1800s. (no I'm not that old, but national politics are.)