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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by papalonian to c/3dprinting
 

Hi everyone, I'm having constant clogging issues with my printer that sprung up out of nowhere. I'm running out of things to test.

The printer had been running several prints a day for several days when I decided to change nozzles for one print. Ever since then (~2 weeks ago) i have not completed a single print, due to clogging. I have tried:

Replacing the PTFE tubing in my hotend.

Replacing the nozzle. (I've used a handful of nozzles, all with the same results)

Trying different filament.

Replacing the hot end with an all metal hot end, trying three different heat breaks from two manufacturers.

Removing the printer from its enclosure to ensure proper cooling.

Adjusting extrusion tensioner.

All the other basic obvious stuff like making sure there's no blockages anywhere (whole hot end and nozzles have been soaked in acetone, torched, brushed etc).

The printer will seem to work fine for a little while before either slowly failing to extrude until it completely jams, or it completely jams all at once. I don't think it's heat creep, because I tried setting the nozzle to printing temp, letting it sit for half an hour or so and running filament through it and it had no issue, whereas prints usually start to fail within the first 10 minutes. It also doesn't have anything to do with my print settings because I'm able to get it to clog sometimes by just running the extrude command.

I'm completely at a loss here. I don't know what else to try. Does anyone have anywhere else for me to look?

Update: I tried detaching the heat block from the rest of the printer and running filament through the (cold) heat break, and it got clogged. There was a small bit of filament adhered to the inside of the heat break. So it's apparent that's where the clog is forming, it's just a matter of finding out why it's happening. Everything seems to point towards heat creep, but even when I intentionally try to heighten the conditions that to cause heat creep I can't intentionally replicate the clog. I'll keep experimenting down that route, though.

Update 2: After clearing that clog, I noticed the short piece of Bowden tube between the top of the heat break and the top of the heat sink was slightly too short. I modified the heat sink to bypass this short piece altogether; the Bowden tube now goes directly from the extruder into the heat sink to the top of the heat break. I also applied a thin layer of thermal paste to the outside of the heat break to ensure good contact/ heat transfer with the heat sink.

After doing all of this, I ran a PID tune and, with my AC set to lower than average, started extruding filament. After extruding ~300mm of filament, I tried a few nozzle and filament swaps using very careful techniques to avoid leaving any residue. I'm able to pull the filament out in a solid piece to where I can see light through the nozzle afterwards. Then, finally, out of the blue, the clicking returns. Another clog. I wasn't able to remove the filament as cleanly this time to inspect the clog, but I'm strongly suspecting heat creep at this point, despite going above and beyond to mitigate it. It's quite late though and I've got work tomorrow so it'll have to wait until then.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If you have the default nozzle for the Neptune 3, then I believe that the PTFE tube runs right down to the nozzle?

If so, that's probably where the issue is coming from.

Get yourself a bi-metallic heat break and replace the stock one.

They're cheap and easy to replace. The printers that I've had jamming issues with have been fixed by replacing the heat break with an all metal one.

You just have to lower your retraction to 2-3mm or it jams as well.

Looks like the Slice Engineering Copperhead C-E fits the Neptune 3

[–] papalonian 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I put in the OP that the stock break has already been replaced with an all metal one, unfortunately symptoms remain unchanged

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Oh shit, sorry, I totally missed that. Then yeah, no idea.

Have you run a PID tune for a while? Like do a lot of cycles, about how long it usually takes to fail.

[–] papalonian 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Youre the second person asking about this, I feel confident heat is not my problem but I'll have to look into this when I get home.

Edit: just reread my comment and the first bit sounded a little rude, didn't mean to say your comment was redundant, more that you are the second person so it's possible that's the solution. I'm sorry if it came across the wrong way!