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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The law literally says you should always use the rightmost lane. At least that’s the case in Europe.

If everyone is in the right lane, entering and exiting is painful or dangerous.

Do you even have a drivers license? Entering and exiting is what entrance and exit lanes are for. There is nothing painful or dangerous about it.

[–] Xanis 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

You, sir, have clearly never driven a car in your life if you think there is nothing painful or dangerous about entrance and exits. The idea is simple, the execution by about 80% of existing drivers is just dreadful. Both the ones using them and the people who refuse to acknowledge that someone is using them.

[–] Dasus 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He's right, and you're probably American, meaning you're not entirely wrong either. You two are just talking about different systems.

Here in Europe it is taught you drive on the right most lane, as entrance and exit lanes are built separately. So if there are two lanes, there will be a third one at exits and entrances, or if there's three lanes there will be a fourth lane for when there's an entrance or an exit.

So it'd be rare to drive to a highway ans and be able to keep the lane you entered on, as it will merge with the normal amount of lanes, and then begin again when there's an exit coming up.

I'm a taxi driver in the third gen, btw. Or "was"? Hard to say.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm in the US, and that sounds like most highways here. Sometimes, the road gets larger and a lane is added for now than just an exit or entrance lane, and sometimes the road gets smaller and a lane becomes the exit lane or otherwise has to merge left. When that happens, you're obviously not expected to remain in the lane that is leaving the highway. That's not "the rightmost lane" any more

[–] Dasus 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Whatever the specifics, I think this is rather about miscommunication online, not actually that either of you are bad drivers in any way.

Driving rules, road infrastructure and "cultural norms" vary somewhat betweeen NA and Europe, afaik.

[–] Xanis 3 points 8 months ago

You're right. I should have clarified originally. Thank you for stepping in.

[–] MutilationWave 5 points 8 months ago

Holy shit I think you're right on that 80% figure for onramps. The onramp is for accelerating to highway speed. Not 20 under. Not 10 under. People don't realize how dangerous going slow really is.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago

Well. You keep to the middle lane then. You know it comes with a €270 fine, right?

[–] weariedfae 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Highways in my region (western USA) are not always designed with separate exit lanes. Often the right lane we've been happily traveling down suddenly becomes "Exit Only" and anyone not exiting must move to the middle lane. The lane will be replenished after the exit, sometimes miles down the road, but will often go Exit Only again. And again.

Staying in the right-hand lane is literally impossible in certain freeways in North America. Other areas of North America are similar to what you're used to with exit lanes being created for the purpose of exiting and entering so commuters can stay in the right-hand lane but it isn't everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Staying in the right-hand lane is literally impossible in certain freeways in North America.

The law says you should keep as far right as possible. This doesn't mean at all cost, if the right lane is completely occupied you're allowed to drive in the middle or even left lane (if the middle is also occupied). This often happens during rush hour.

Unnecessarily driving in the left lane is the #3 most irritating thing in traffic, according to surveys, with tailgating at #1 and phone use while driving at #2. You're not only blocking those behind you, but everyone on the lanes to your right as well. (Overtaking on the right carries an even heftier fine than not driving in the rightmost possible lane).

[–] weariedfae 5 points 8 months ago

I didn't say the alternative was left lane driving or condoned left lane camping. Your response to the other person sounded like you were only used to one type of freeway/highway configuration.

I am pointing out your experience may be a bit local to your area and middle lane driving for through traffic (also called commuter traffic sometimes) is the safest option that minimizes risky lane changes on some roads. But this does contradict the edict of staying in the right-most lane which is different from keeping-right-except-to-pass I think.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Its the same in the States as well. People here are just so far removed from the law because our road design often necessitates breaking the law.