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Yesterday, Brian Dorsey was executed for a crime he committed in 2006. By all accounts, during his time in prison, he became remorseful for his actions and was a "model prisoner," to the point that multiple corrections officers backed his petition for clemency.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/09/us/brian-dorsey-missouri-execution-tuesday/index.html

In general, the media is painting him as the victim of a justice system that fails to recognize rehabilitation. I find this idea disgusting. Brian Dorsey, in a drug-induced stupor, murdered the people who gave him shelter. He brutally ended the life of a woman and her husband, and (allegedly) sexually assaulted her corpse. There is an argument that he had ineffective legal representation, but that doesn't negate the fact that he is guilty.

While I do believe that he could have been released or had his sentence converted to life in prison, and he could have potentially been a model citizen, this would have been a perversion of justice. Actions that someone takes after committing a barbaric act do not undo the damage that was done. Those two individuals are still dead, and he needed to face the ramifications for his actions.

Rehabilitation should not be an option for someone who committed crimes as depraved as he did. Quite frankly, a lethal injection was far less than what he deserved, given the horror he inflicted on others. If the punishment should fit the crime, then he was given far more leniency than was warranted.

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[–] corroded 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

An executioner is not a murderer if the condemned is guilty.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just because the murder is state-sanctioned does not mean it's not a murder.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That's literally what it means, actually.

You don't get to randomly redefine words because you don't like what they mean for whatever reason.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you believe any and all state-sanctioned murders are justified and legal?

[–] PP_BOY_ -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

all state-sanctioned murders

No such thing.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sorry to invoke Godwin's law here, but are you telling me that during the Holocaust that the Jewish people weren't murdered?

Are you telling me Ukraine and Palestine civilians aren't being killed?

[–] PP_BOY_ -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Depends. There were plenty of interpersonal killings of Jews during the early stages of the Holocaust that would easily count as murder. The state-sanctioned death camps were not murders, even if it's also true that murders took place within the camps.

Are you telling me Ukraine and Palestine civilians aren't being killed?

Of course not. Being killed is not being murdered. There are Ukrainians and Palestinians being both killed and murdered right now, but no western understanding of the word "murder" can accurately be applied to an active war front.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 1 points 5 months ago

Ukraine is being invaded, it's not a war front.