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To the admins- will lemmy.world block Facebook's Threads or are you open to federating with them in the future? (self.support)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by YellowtoOrange to c/support

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https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

Many of us do not trust Facebook and anything it is associated with or swallows up.

EDIT:

https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/adam-mosseri-says-metas-threads-app-wont-have-activitypub-support-at-launch/

"Instagram head Adam Mosseri said "

““Soon, you’ll be able to follow and interact with people on other fediverse platforms, such as Mastodon. They can also find people on Threads using full usernames, such as @[email protected].””

“We’re committed to building support for ActivityPub, the protocol behind Mastodon, into this app. We weren’t able to finish it for launch given a number of complications that come along with a decentralized network, but it’s coming,” he said.

“If you’re wondering why this matters, here’s a reason: you may one day end up leaving Threads, or, hopefully not, end up de-platformed. If that ever happens, you should be able to take your audience with you to another server. Being open can enable that.”

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mastodon's head can't choose who individual instances federate with. I think he's in charge of like, one? How many people in this thread have already shown they have no clue how federation works?

[–] MBM 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mastodon is much more centralised than Lemmy though, so it's still a big deal

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it isn't. What are you talking about? Do you even understand the difference between Lemmy and Lemmy.world at this point? Do you understand what I mean when I tell you I don't use Lemmy?

[–] MBM 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mastodon.social is much bigger than the other instances and it's headed by the devs (just like kbin.social). This is different from Lemmy, where the spread is more even and the devs purposely don't want to have the largest instance. Have a good day.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's not what centralized means, nor does it actually affect anything others mentioned. So, good day to you as well I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"centralized" and "decentralized" are a spectrum, not absolutes. Mastodon might be decentralized in theory but if everyone uses a single instance then it's centralized in practice. That isn't the case right now, but it's also not entirely not the case, either. Same is true for lemmy

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

This perspective would also make the conversation surrounding it pointless. The proposed idiosyncrasies you suggest don't change the overall discussion in this thread. It's a non-actionable perspective. It's like saying no one can know anything ever. It's technically philosophically a valid point, but it serves no purpose and doesn't help in most conversations.

[–] YellowtoOrange 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, that is why I'm asking the admins of lemmy.world if they are going to block it.

Also, this is the largest mastrodon server that is likely federating with threads, so not a small deal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't see what people are afraid of. Lemmy.world can do what it wishes, but I honestly don't see where the fear comes in. At the very least just mark it invisible. Let those other users see what other alternatives are out there.

What problem are you trying to fix by blocking them before even seeing what it's like (without using some vague notions)?

Will it even natively federate with this format? Just as Mastodon doesn't default to trying to display posts in its feed and Kbin doesn't by default show Mastodon or PixelFed, etc. You might be worrying over nothing.

Your server federated with Mastodon instances. I'm assuming you aren't inundated with Mastodon posts.

[–] JigglySackles 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you watched how growth-at-all-costs tech companies behave? They are ruthless. Nothing good can come from them joining.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their joining inti the fediverse is not influenced by a server preemptively defederating a source that isn't even live yet. I don't truly care who defederates who, but forcing them to do so early doesn't make sense. If it's truly as bad as you say, they'll be defederated fairly quickly. I just don't like folks literally causing infighting simply because some admins are fairly level headed.

[–] JigglySackles 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't seen infighting so much as just active discussions on the merit or lack thereof of joining hands with a known bad actor like Meta.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This entire post was centered around leaving this community and basically implying others should as well.

[–] JigglySackles 1 points 1 year ago

It's not. It's asking whether Lemmy.World will defederate from Threads. Nothing in that suggests leaving Lemmy.World.