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The Vatican on Monday declared gender-affirming surgery and surrogacy as grave violations of human dignity, putting them on par with abortion and euthanasia as practices that reject God’s plan for human life.

The Vatican’s doctrine office issued “Infinite Dignity,” a 20-page declaration that has been in the works for five years. After substantial revision in recent months, it was approved March 25 by Pope Francis, who ordered its publication.

In its most eagerly anticipated section, the Vatican repeated its rejection of “gender theory,” or the idea that one’s gender can be changed. It said God created man and woman as biologically different, separate beings, and said people must not tinker with that plan or try to “make oneself God.”

“It follows that any sex-change intervention, as a rule, risks threatening the unique dignity the person has received from the moment of conception,” the document said.

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[–] mrfriki 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s much easier, if God wanted us to do something instead of any other things then why the fuck will give us free will, instead of making a bunch of robots.

[–] Stovetop 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

From another viewpoint, though, we are all flesh robots. Our bodies are built on genetic programming, our personalities and behavior based on environmental stimuli. How much independent thought or agency can an individual claim to have when so much is predetermined the moment we draw first breath?

Might even be able to predict it all if you have a powerful enough computer.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean, if that is the case, then that means God built some people to be transgender and seek gender affirming care.

So either way, the church's bit here is bullshit.

[–] assassin_aragorn 7 points 7 months ago

That's my argument against the religious. If God created you, then he chose to make you trans or gay. He chose to make people skeptical. He chose to make people who need hard evidence to believe things.

If there is a creator who purposely made each of us, then It would see no moral difference between gay and straight, cis and trans. It would also not judge people for disbelief, because It made people who were predisposed to disbelief without extraordinary evidence.

All in all, fuck the religious. They don't understand their own religion.

[–] Stovetop 4 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

He is some sort of sadist, the free will is so you don't want to do whatever it is that you are forced to do. Either be miserable in life or suffer for eternity after death. He loves you a lot btw.