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Classic British prescriptivism
If anything, it's the US that is prescritivist. You decided to change half of your words for no freaking reason.
Actually we had a reason, back in the colonial era printers charged by the letter. Hence a lot of words became simplified, solder keeping its silent l is a bit weird though. Also solder is pronounced soder, the English latinized their dialect awhile back for some fucken reason.
TF you mean the l is silent.
In solder the l is silent, the Romans pronounced it with an l but by the time it got to English it had been dropped. Blame the French. Frankly Latinizing a dialect seems a hell of a lot harder than just changing the spelling to sauder, soder, or sodder which I have seen as acceptable alternatives to the frankly weird solder.
I've never heard it spoken without the l. Neither in England nor here in the Netherlands.
That has to do morseso with the rise of soldering as a semi common method of welding or whatever you want to call it. Before the 20th century soldering was a blacksmiths use meaning it was a much rarer word to hear. Most folks will look at the spelling and assume thats how its pronounced. Hell most folks in my area who are younger than 30 pronounce it with an l.
Also the singular sold is still preserved in slang. Namely ad sod. Soldering was a filling method, and a person getting filled is called getting fucked. So to sod someone is to fuck someone.
In Australia we spell and pronounce it solder
Soldier is pronounced with an /l/ in most English dialects. I actually can't think of a major variety where it isn't.
S O L D E R
Solder is pronounced using /l/ in varieties like British English and often in Southern American English
You wrote "soldier" instead of "solder".
Very similar looking words. My mistake.
That's not what prescriptivism means lmao
Apparently you're also illiterate. Here, have someone read this for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_prescription
Are you aware of the level of hypocrisy in your argumentation?
Prescriptivism is assigning rules to language as opposed to descriptivism which takes language as is and analyzes it. You saying American English decided to change half of their words for no reason is a classic prescriptivist stance, ignoring the fact that the language diverged due to distance and loss of shared culture. Not to mention many American spellings and pronunciations are closer to the originals before the split than Modern British English is :)
Really? Ever wonder where the word "Soccer" came from?
It's an abbreviation of “association football”.
Why Americans would call gridiron football when it involves neither feet nor balls, now, that truly boggles the mind.
It USED to involve a lot more kicking than it currently does. The rules have changed considerably over the years, but the name never did. That's the reason if you were actually curious.
First, why would I care? Second, I do know where it comes from. Third, how does futball relate to the discussion?
Pray tell us, which words?
Nearly every word with a "ou" diphthong, "s" into "z" or vice-versa, "c" into "s", the swap of "-re" for "-er", etc.
Not a diphthong. A digraph. Either way American English didn't "change" this, the now-prevailing British and American standards just standardized different spellings.
I assume you're referencing words like realize/realise, defense/defence, maneuver/maneouvre. In which case same thing as for o/ou, Americans didn't "change" this. These were spellings that were already common throughout Middle English; American and British varietes of English just happened to diverge around the time of the printing press (because the printing press was introduced to the English right at the beginning of colonization of the Americas) and they adopted different standards based on the many, MANY spellings already in use.
Saying the Americans were [more] "prescriptivist" because common standard spellings in the US and common standard spellings in the UK are different is... a take, for sure.
Ah, yes, I love the flavo-ur of tomatoes. Their odo-ur is quite nice.
The "ou" digraph was only merged as a single "o" where it represents a diphthong. Way to instantly discredit yourself.
... what? You seem to be unaware of what a diphthong is. "ou" is a digraph, which in words like "flavour" tend to "represent" a monophthong (or a syllabic rhotic in GenAm). You clearly do not know enough about the linguistics you're trying to argue about.