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[–] TheDemonBuer 52 points 7 months ago (21 children)

I don't think many people are saying that Biden is the same as Trump or just as bad as Trump. I think most progressives, for instance, would agree that Biden is better than Trump, it's just that that's such a low bar. I mean, are liberals really surprised that people aren't all that impressed with a president whose main selling point is that he's not as bad as the only alternative? Now, I get that liberals don't see it that way, I understand that liberals, apparently, are really very happy with Joe Biden, but for the rest of us he is only the least bad option.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (31 children)

In some parts of Lemmy, they are absolutely making that argument.

[–] TheDemonBuer 24 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I would imagine those people are Marxists, or other anti-capitalists. If you're somebody whose primary litmus test is whether a candidate is pro-capitalist or anti-capitalist, you might not see much of a difference between Biden and Trump because they are both staunchly pro-capitalist. But I think those people are overrepresented on lemmy and only make up a very small percentage of the actual US voter base.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or perhaps these people live in the middle east or africa and every day they get a taste of "capitalism".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Really? Because those folks have family here, and they say "stop using our dead relatives as an excuse to let the fascists come for us too you insensitive porcelain American shit bags!"

[–] TokenBoomer 2 points 7 months ago

This is the answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

On Lemmy, yeah. The political leanings here is different than the body politic of America.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are they literally saying they are the same person? That they share the same atoms?

Or is the point that they are the same in the most important ways?

Maybe your disagreement is over what qualities/policies are most important, but accusing them for being blind is easier than addressing the actual disagreement?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The arguments are that Biden is just as bad as Trump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And it doesn't occur to you to ask by what metrics they think that? All metrics? One metric? A spattering of metrics?

accusing them for being blind is easier than addressing the actual disagreement

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So you agree that people on Lemmy are arguing that Biden is just as bad as Trump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

People on Lemmy are arguing that Biden is just as bad as Trump in the most important ways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (8 children)
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[–] danc4498 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have you talked with Republicans, though? This has always been the way of a republican. Democrat does bad things, republican does bad thing. To them it’s a wash even though what the Republican did was 100 times worse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This meme is targeting leftists, not republicans.

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[–] Smoogs 2 points 7 months ago

Perhaps it’s just a case of vote for biden now so trump can be shut out for the next 4 yrs and hope that his senility eats him before the next course

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

are liberals really surprised that people aren’t all that impressed with a president whose main selling point is that he’s not as bad as the only alternative?

When your opponent is Trump, it's kind of hard for that to not be the main selling point; he could be the best president ever and that would likely still be true.

[–] Ensign_Crab 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

he could be the best president ever and that would likely still be true.

If he were the best president ever, he might have something better to run on than "at least I'm second worst to Trump."

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