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[–] dragontamer 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

First two are communication platforms with direct spying concerns and the car industry always was a proxy for Tank production.

Yeah. If China is a better country at manufacturing EVs than the USA, that means they can make more war material than us. That's absolutely a national security threat.


The 3rd case is more of honest competition. But it's a huge concern to any warfighter. USA won WW2 by making more vehicles than the Nazis and Japanese. If China can out-manufacture us, we absolutely have to consider the new realities of the modern battlefield

It's a well known fact that Nazi tanks were a lot better than American tanks. We just outnumbered the shit out of the Nazis.

I don't think EV production will lead to tanks like how WW2 did. But EV production almost certainly is a modern drone / Li-ion battery.

[–] omzwo 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Actually EVs collect a huge amount of information including video and audio of the participants. It's a huge privacy issue regardless of manufacturer country but you obviously should distinguish the difference between a foreign country collecting information on your citizens compared to your own. Neither is good but one clearly has more authoritarian tendencies and less scruples about finding and coercing compliance with any means at their disposal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There isn't anything inherent with an EV to necessitate video/audio recording capabilities.

If you're concerned about an EV having that ability, you should be equally concerned about traditional vehicles as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I literally read something this morning on how you can now get cybersecurity insurance for your car. For a fucking CAR. Why tf do the circumstances exist that that's even a possible market?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Honestly why should I care if China has more military power than the U.S. It's not like the USA is doing going things with our military power. We can't even stop a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We can, we just choose not to

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[–] dragontamer 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (57 children)

Because China is about to attack Taiwan, which has 60%+ of the world computer chips.

That means no iPhones, no Snapdragon (Android phones), no XBox, no PS5, no AMD (Servers), no AMD/Xilinx (aka: F35), no NVidia GPUs if that attack goes off successfully. It'd be a major effect on the US technology sector, which is where I'm employed (and where many others are employed). This is a vital economic and technological issue.

If we lose the upcoming China vs Taiwan fight, its not just like "Oh I feel bad" like the Ukrainian situation (trust me, I'm hugely supportive of the Ukrainians). But Ukraine doesn't have a major economy / export tied to the USA's economy like Taiwan does.


China has made something like 400 nuclear weapons in the past 5 years or so. They're preparing for something. The current bets are on a Taiwan invasion, which has been a sorespot for them for the past century.

I don't think China is going to use those nukes per se, they just want nuclear parity with "somebody". So its clear they're likely planning to attack USA (or some other major nuclear power), which would coincide with a Taiwan attack (USA would almost certainly rush to protect this vital economic center for us, leading into a China vs USA war). The nukes are the just-in-case option for China, its likely going to try to stay conventional.

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[–] Zorque 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That implies the US is trying to stop it.

[–] dragontamer 1 points 7 months ago (8 children)

No. This is a political meme.

This is implying that a huge chunk of Americans are too stupid to recognize the obvious threats here, and are making incredibly dumb memes to proudly state how ignorant they are on this issue.

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