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A Nebraska woman allegedly found a lucrative quirk at a gas station pump — double-swipe the rewards card and get free gas!

Unfortunately for her, you can’t do that, prosecutors said. The 45-year-old woman was arrested March 6 and faces felony theft charges accusing her of a crime that cost the gas station nearly $28,000.

Prosecutors say the woman exploited the system over a period of several months. Police learned of the problem in October when the loss-prevention manager at Bosselman Enterprises reported that the company’s Pump & Pantry in Lincoln had been scammed.

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[–] fustigation769curtain 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

As always, it depends on what the courts say.

That said, yeah it kind of is on them not to crash. If I was on that jury, I would vote 'not-guilty' to anyone who picked up money that was laying around on the ground, especially if it's public property.

My mom once paid a painter hundreds of dollars in cash, and he lost most of it when pulling his hand out of his pocket and the money blew away. Anyone who finds that money should get to keep it.

A bootlegger was acquitted in the US for killing his wife during Prohibition after he got out of jail and found out she sold all his stuff. He literally admitted to doing it and the jury said "not guilty" and cheered when the verdict was read.

[–] Dasus 2 points 8 months ago

it depends on what the courts say.

The court decide what laws are to be enforced, the laws being decided by the legislative part of the government, which is formed of the people, who are you.

So indirectly, our subjective morality decides what the courts say, indirectly. I'm asking what your innate sense would tell you to do in that hypothetical?

My mom once paid a painter hundreds of dollars in cash, and he lost most of it when pulling his hand out of his pocket and the money blew away. Anyone who finds that money should get to keep it.

Well, in transactional situations that would be pretty subjective. Who fudged it? Subjective. Depending on the sum, there could definitely be an argument.

And what if it was like an open check (btw checks are not a thing everywhere, I've seen maybe a dozen in my life and I'm 34, they're so insecure we don't use them) for a million dollars? With the value, it would definitely be different.

I think there are laws about lottery coupons as well. Different ones for different places in the world, but still.

Some of those laws say for instance you have to return it, but also that returning something very valuable gives you the right to a finder's fee.

So "finder's keeper's" isn't quite as simple as we'd like to.

In this specific instance, I really don't mind someone having abused the system, but technically it would be at least a bit of fraud here. Tanking up once or twice for free would be an understandable happy accident, draining 28k worth of gas is clearly malicious and organised theft.

I don't mind the occasional theft from corporations, but 28k is a bit beyond the normal robin hooding. Corporations suck currently but we can't replace a thieving system with a system with even more thieving.

Casual thieving fine, but this is rather organised

[–] FuglyDuck -1 points 8 months ago

It’s going to come down to, was there reason to suspect the machine was a bug?

I assume she swiped rewards, and the. Swiped rewards again when it was asking for a credit/debit card; in which case it’d be the card equivalent of trying to pay with Monopoly money.