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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

They were thinking that those caps were among the top items found littering beaches. So they put forward this measure to attempt to curb that issue.

Nobody should be buying single use bottles anyway if there are alternatives available. Maybe that's the quiet part - making them less attractive to consumers

Drinking from a can only works from one side, so I guess think of it that way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nobody should be buying single use bottles anyway if there are alternatives available. Maybe that's the quiet part - making them less attractive to consumers

Wow. I got played. I did finally switch to just drinking tap water and the number of single use plastic bottles I go through each weak is down by 90% or smth. Just like 2-3 bottles of coke left. I buy some local off-brand stuff cause screw big corporations.

[–] cosmicrookie 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But are they though? Personally i see many bottles littered and even more lids from cups. Actually why are straws replaced with paper but the lids are still plastic? And why not ban plastic bottles alltogether like they've done with so many other things?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, it's what they said. Maybe bottles are easier to clean up. They said "among" the most frequent items, so perhaps you're right that those other things are worse, but there haven't been reasonable alternatives suggested

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

it's a change expected to prevent 10% of the litter in european beaches, to be fair, the true fix could be ban plastic lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Plastics legislation is often incredibly patchwork and politicised-feeling. It's a good idea, but I kind of think Extended Producer Responsibility would have gotten the job done better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nobody should be buying single use bottles anyway if there are alternatives available.

Are there alternatives available for carbonated beverages? I guess we could go back to glass bottles. But, they're effectively single-use too.

We've come a long way, so that it's normal to take a thermos to a coffee shop and have them put a tea or a coffee in it. I don't know of any similar scheme for carbonated beverages. I'd love it if it existed, especially if you could keep your soda-pop cold for hours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Glass bottles are not always single use. Countries have systems to recollect them (empty bottles hold a face value), they get factory-cleaned and quality tested and each bottle can run for 20 or more cycles. The issue is more that it increases the transportation and handling costs and emissions because of weight. Bottles that don't pass the test anymore but did stay in the system can get near 100% recycled, tho the issues there are that it's usually downgrade (make dark bright again = hard) and very energy intensive (costs more energy to recycle than to make glass from scratch). Anyhow: not single use.