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Jellyfin: The Free Software Media System

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[–] LunchEnjoyer 120 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Man I am so grateful for this project, I was afraid it would feel polished enough after having been with Plex for the last few years. But hot damn Jellyfin is so much better and keeps on giving!

[–] glimse 21 points 8 months ago (12 children)

I plan on switching regardless but let's say I was on the fence... Aside from it not being owned by a for-profit company, why is Jellyfin better than Plex?

[–] kaitco 54 points 8 months ago (4 children)

That “aside” is everything though.

Plex is focused on making money, whether that is from the sale of your data or selling you products. Jellyfin is a community-driven project, so its focus is just on being better because it exists.

With Jellyfin, it’s truly self-hosting as opposed to leveraging a third party to do some of the legwork. Plex “offers” more, but it all comes at the cost of your data, or your data+an actual fee.

Jellyfin is available directly on most newer TV stores, iOS/Apple TV, Android, Chromecast, Fire stick, and Roku. It already takes some work to set up your media library in the relevant structures, so if you’re going to do the work anyway for a self-hosting option, why pay Plex extra for what Jellyfin can do for free since it is an open-source project?

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Their Roku devs are super responsive in their discord too. So much so it makes you wonder how they keep from burning out.

Always chugging away at fixes and then new feature requests.

Pretty impressive

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] SzethFriendOfNimi 25 points 8 months ago

And there’s one of them. A wild Jellyfin Roku dev appears

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

why pay Plex extra for what Jellyfin can do for free since it is an open-source project?

One big reason for me is that I got Plex lifetime on sale for like 70 bucks and it comes with a discount on Tidal, something I already paid for. With the discount after about 1 year and 2 months I've gotten my Plex Pass value out of Tidal alone. Oh and the paid features for PlexAmp are also really nice to use for the point where I barely use the Tidal app anymore.

[–] glimse 3 points 8 months ago

But they said it's so much better and keeps on giving. I assumed they meant feature-wise

[–] pete_the_cat 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Pretty much the only problem is the lack of clients for Jellyfin vs Plex.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly the clients for Plex are trash though. We had SO many issues with Plex and have almost none with Jellyfin. The only thing is Plex is a few more features than Jellyfin (one that comes to mind is an easy way to search for open subtitles to for a show without them hard-coded)

[–] pete_the_cat 4 points 8 months ago

Agreed, the only issues I've had with Jellyfin (other than the lack of available clients), is always server-side.

[–] kaitco 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Which clients do you see missing, though?

I think this might have been the case when Jellyfin originally forked from Emby, but not so much today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

There's STILL not a great option for AppleTV. I bit the bullet years ago and have a lifetime infuse option. But that's not really any different than how I paid (also years ago) for a lifetime Plex Pass too.

[–] pete_the_cat 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

There is no official support for LG TVs running WebOS 5 or older (which is pretty much any one made before like 2021 or 2022, mine is from 2018), you can add in one if you root the TV, but even in that case it's just a wrapper for the web UI. When Plex forced me to drop them (I had just moved everything to Hetzner), I lost a few users as well since they didn't have clients available for their older TVs. Of course this can easily be remedied by using a streaming stick/STB but the problem still exists.

[–] buzziebee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I believe from last time I checked that it was more an issue of LG not approving the app to be listed rather than it not being available. It being a wrapper makes sense too on the older webOS apps as it's basically a PWA with some JS libs to interact with the TV.

I got a chrome cast because nordvpn didn't have an LG app and the jellyfin client works great on that. Still annoying it's not baked in though.

[–] pete_the_cat 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, it exists, but it's not like the one for version 6, which is a native app.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago

There's a few reasons, but number one for me is how incredibly clean the UI is.

Plex is a mess. Half of it is just premium shit they're trying to convince you to use. The actual "stream my own media" functionality is buried at the bottom of the menus.

Trying to get nontechnical family to use Plex was always a challenge, just because of how busy it is. I've never had this problem since moving to Jellyfin.

[–] CosmicTurtle 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The biggest reason I use jellyfin: you don't need to pay for plex premium to stream to your phone.

I get plex needs to make money. But talk about a basic feature that people need...

[–] chrizl 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can stream to my phone without premium with plex, only the downloads are linked to premium afaik

The biggest issue I have with Jellyfin is you can't hide empty shows, and I have folders for shows that have not aired yet or watched in the past

[–] PunkiBas 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There's an option in sonarr to only create folders for shows when needed. That would at least help with the unaired shows. Also, I'm pretty sure when you choose to delete them from sonarr it deletes the folder too. And there's also the option in jellyfin to allow users to delete shows, you have to activate it per user.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

No internet needed, no sneaky ads

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

You can't login to plex without internet. Why would I tell a company that I login to my server?

[–] echo64 11 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Jellyfin is 90% plex, and it's impressive how it comes forward in leaps and bounds, but it's not better than plex. People just appreciate it more.

If you only need that 90% that it does (and don't need things like intro detection, conversions, mobile sync, ass/sas subtitles), then you'll come away super happy with not having to pay plex and not being locked into plex.

It doesn't really do much over that 90%, it's just neat that the 90% isn't plex

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's an intro detection plugin for Jellyfin.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

And incidentally, this is likely coming to Jellyfin 10.9 through endrl's mediasegments PR

[–] pete_the_cat 5 points 8 months ago

I've been a Plex user for over a decade, I have a lifetime PlexPass, and I've also used Jellyfin for a few years. Like you said, Plex is better in the sense that it offers more, but they're also profit driven, which has become more annoying in the past few years.

Plex has way better logging than Jellyfin does, the latter suffers a lot from log spam, and the stack traces it produces when anything errors out are like 10-15 lines. They're not of use to end users, and there's no way to disable them/decrease the verbosity.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Jelly fin let's you play on mobile without paying. Plex doesn't

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

*Let's you transcode for free completely for all platforms.

[–] Krafting 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No link with their bs account system, their bs subscriptions and SyncPlay, SyncPlay is just awesome, I don't know if plex has something similar

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Plex has basically the same thing but it's only within the plex ecosystem. Jelyfin has syncplay compatibility directly?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Besides all the other stuff people mentioned, a concrete one is that you can stream TV via it for free vs Plex. Just add a TV tuner to it and away you go.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

That's always been pretty much a niche though (and I know as a former HDHomerun and Kodi user) and over time more people just stream their media anyway.

[–] random8847 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The free version of plex doesn't allow downloading, only allows streaming. Downloading is a huge feature IMO.

[–] schteph 4 points 8 months ago

People mentioned a lot of things. I'll add that plex doesn't offer hardware transcoding without premium. Now, setting up hardware transcoding on an NVidia graphics card on linux is a bit complicated, setting it up on windows is really simple. While it's not just clicking "enable hardware acceleration", it's not much more complicated than that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Plex has a known and very old issue of improperly transcoding 5.1 audio to stereo and dropping the center channel. It makes movies seem super quiet. That's why I switched.

[–] Limeey 13 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I need a ps5 app - without that I can’t leave plex

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Ironically the PlayStation app version of Plex is one of the worst ones out there. Its imo not even worth using.

[–] cozy_agent 6 points 8 months ago

Can just get a Chromecast.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

My friend, just spend $30 on a chromecast with Google TV. You can even have it auto boot into whatever app you want with a little tweaking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Sony seems to not be willing to accept a Jellyfin client. It's not that the devs don't want to support the PS5, Sony is blocking it...