this post was submitted on 29 Feb 2024
719 points (90.3% liked)

Lemmy Shitpost

26972 readers
5781 users here now

Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content.

Anything and everything goes. Memes, Jokes, Vents and Banter. Though we still have to comply with lemmy.world instance rules. So behave!


Rules:

1. Be Respectful


Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

...


2. No Illegal Content


Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.

That means:

-No promoting violence/threats against any individuals

-No CSA content or Revenge Porn

-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)

...


3. No Spam


Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.

-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.

-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.

-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers

-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.

...


4. No Porn/ExplicitContent


-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.

-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.

...


5. No Enciting Harassment,Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts


-Do not Brigade other Communities

-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.

-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.

-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.

...


6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.


-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.

...

If you see content that is a breach of the rules, please flag and report the comment and a moderator will take action where they can.


Also check out:

Partnered Communities:

1.Memes

2.Lemmy Review

3.Mildly Infuriating

4.Lemmy Be Wholesome

5.No Stupid Questions

6.You Should Know

7.Comedy Heaven

8.Credible Defense

9.Ten Forward

10.LinuxMemes (Linux themed memes)


Reach out to

All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules. Striker

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's a perfect system, however there are easy ways to prevent this problem. You simply make either the customers or the government one of the parties holding shares of the companies. That way the customers also get to vote on decisions, or the government on behalf of the whole society.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I feel like that's just a less efficient non-market form of Socialism, at that point it might make more sense to just fully socialize.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fully socialize? Socialist market economy is a true socialist system already. You can't make it more socialist. Your confusing communism with socialism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm aware that it's fully anticapitalist, but full Socialism would imply collective ownership of the Means of Production, not just ownership at an entity level.

Communism would also get rid of the state, so I'm not quite referring to Communism in this instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Your confusing Leninism for socialism. Not all socialism even requires a state never mind state ownership.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not, and I understand. I think you're confusing my point, I think having unequal ownership among a collective of people is less efficient for Socialism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why? How could letting someone half way across the world that has nothing to do with a given workplace or enterprise vote on an issue they know nothing about possibly be more efficient? Surely having the people who are actual stakeholders in a co-operative make decisions about that co-operative would be more fair and more efficient than having a central bureaucratic organization, or worse individual voters across the world make decisions for them.

Also I hate to tell you this but markets are generally pretty efficient. Command economies much less so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can have equal ownership without requiring everyone to give input, and this prevents someone from gaining more ownership and thus more power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How is someone going to gain more ownership? We are talking about worker co-ops probably enforced by law. You can add rules about how much of a business who can own of those who work there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Then you keep enshittification as coops monopolize, which you said you'd allow the government and customers to also have ownership, by which point I'd say it would be more efficient to just share equal ownership to begin with.