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I'm glad it's happening. However, I am almost sure SCOTUS will not allow it no matter what and will find some spurious reason that the 14th Amendment doesn't apply to Trump.
Also, I wish it wasn't a state that Trump was pretty much guaranteed to lose anyway. Oh well, I guess it's a start.
States don't have to obey the supreme court.
The supreme court is a suggestion body more than anything else.
As soon as we stop taking them seriously, they stop having power.
That's certainly what Alabama thinks and why they won't draw districts that aren't racist.
The question is why you're on their side that state law takes precedence over federal law.
Because federal law isn't always just.
Look at the war on drugs.
Unjust federal laws means that the South should be allowed to be as racist as they want to be? Really? Plessy vs. Ferguson can just be ignored?
Try looking at things on a case-by-case basis then life will start to make more sense.
After that, look into the concepts of "civil disobedience" and the "social contract."
Come back when you've educated yourself more on the subject matter.
Who decides which SCOTUS cases can be ignored? Because right now, Alabama is ignoring a SCOTUS ruling to stop their racist gerrymandering. No one is able to stop them from doing it. Insulting me will not change the fact that ignoring a SCOTUS ruling is, right now, allowing official state racism to stand. And there has been no civil disobedience enough to stop it.
So, without insulting me- how do you ensure the South doesn't just ignore Plessy vs. Ferguson?
They already are. What did Illinois following rulings by an illegitimate court do to change that?
The discussion was about how states could just ignore SCOTUS. It had moved on from the topic in the article.
As far as I understand, your argument was if Illinois ignores a SCOTUS ruling that allows southern states to also ignore SCOTUS rulings, which they are already doing. What is your argument if I've misunderstood, and what is your proposal in regards to how states should deal with a ruling that is contrary to what the law should be?
This is the comment I was responding to:
And if that is the case, any Southern state can ignore Plessy v. Ferguson.
But it is clearly not the case.
Alabama is currently ignoring the Supreme Court's directive to redraw their congressional map.
Yes, I know. I already brought that up. And, again, if Alabama is legally able to do that, they are also legally able to ignore Plessy. It's one or the other.
What are the consequences for Alabama doing that?
We'll have to wait and see apparently. Does that change what I said somehow?
Considering Illinois would not be setting a precedent here, yes.
You have yet to explain why Southern states couldn't just ignore Plessy if SCOTUS rulings are just suggestions.
(Remember? The thing I was replying to?)
Federal law has never controlled state elections.
Why do u think scotus has any power over how state elections are run here? Plessy v Ferguson doesn't even apply here.
Plessy v. Ferguson was another example of racist laws that could be allowed if SCOTUS can just be ignored whenever states want.
And racist gerrymandering has absolutely been taken up by SCOTUS before. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_v._Johnson
Legal racism is not a state-by-state issue.
Why don't you just make your own thread to talk about your specific case instead of trying to hijack my comments?
You clearly can't understand the words being put in front of you, so why would I continue this discussion?
Goodbye.
I don't think your insults are called for and I don't think it would be hard to answer my question if it is such a simple matter.