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[–] weeeeum 145 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I don't mean to shock you but... North Koreans can't travel anywhere.

Am I missing something ?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (3 children)

North Koreans with passports can travel to 12 countries visa-free, including Suriname and Guyana

[–] MrJameGumb 77 points 9 months ago (1 children)

North Koreans with passports

Really though how many people is that? Like 20 or 30?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which entirely consists of the espionage dept

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Don't forget the espionage dept espionage dept.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Probably not available to everyone

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

And is this common, traveling abroad to these places?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

of course they can, to the countries that have diplomatic relations with them, but not many countries, of course.

Fun fact:

As of 2024, Malaysia is the only country in Southeast Asia that does not maintain diplomatic relations with North Korea.

source

If Kim Jong-Nam assassination rings a bell...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They were saying that the limiting factor might not be whether other countries allow them in but rather if their own country allows them to leave.

Not that anyone would want to leave the glorious workers' paradise to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, we can safely assume that those who leave NK are somehow working for the government either officially or unofficially and thoroughly vetted to ensure that they will come back to their glorious country.

[–] ABCDE 4 points 9 months ago

Often monitored to the extent that they're under house arrest in some cases, such as those who work in the Pyongyang restaurant chain. The waitresses can go out with minders, but must be 'home' in the evenings. Some South Korean businessmen have visited and managed to get a few of them out before.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't remember what countries, but I know there are North Korean restaurants in other countries. With actual North Korean women working there, having to live on premises and be vetted for political loyalty while essentially being under surveillance.

Looked it up and Wikipedia was saying they're all essentially fronts for laundering foreign currency to send back home. Other sites have been saying that these restaurants have been closing since the pandemic.