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[–] _number8_ 95 points 9 months ago (3 children)

private planes, yachts, private chefs, etc seem like such an obscene amount of luxury it shouldn't be allowed somehow. public services would be better if the wealthy were forced to use them, then they might actually care about the constant shittifying of everything

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"Private planes" may refer to a Piper Cub. It's expensive, but in some areas may make sense, and fits under a hobby. Some people dream of piloting.

"Yachts" may refer to a motorboat. Or a yacht as in "motorboat with one sail". It's expensive, but very often honestly worked for. Some people dream of yachting.

I'm just informing you of cases you clearly didn't think about.

[–] JustZ 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I was just looking at planes this week, can get an experimental one seater for like $30k.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I need the link.

(But - yes. I was still thinking of "real" planes, but I suppose there may be something flying for that cost. If you don't mean a glider.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Getting a private pilots license is a lot cheaper than I thought once I started researching it. The total cost of everything (school/instructor time/flight hours) seemed to average around 15k. Instead of buying a new car for 40k you could probably reasonably afford a pilots license and a plane share with a couple other people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yes, and people do that. Which was my point.

There are still health requirements for a license and these are not a pure formality, I think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

You're overthinking it. People who have it better than me are automatically bad, and all crimes are authorized against them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] SendMePhotos 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Apparently more people here agree than disagree.

I think owning a small plane is fine. I'm not officially against owning a larger plane... Idk..

Aviation makes up about 2% of global CO2 emissions which is a lot but also not a lot. It's not the smaller planes, it's all of the passenger and cargo jets (mostly).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Anyone who has taken a cruise and is harping on jets is a hypocrite.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IIRC the biggest problem with that 2% is it's already in the upper atmosphere. Don't have a source for that though.

Here's a source for your comment btw:

https://ourworldindata.org/ghg-emissions-by-sector

which links to this paper (direct 296 kB pdf download link):

https://theicct.org/sites/default/files/publications/ICCT_CO2-commercl-aviation-2018_20190918.pdf

and aCKSHUALLYY it's 1.9%

[–] SendMePhotos 3 points 9 months ago

Oh dang my whole world is upside down now. Lol.

Thanks

[–] tuxtey 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Thank you! While reducing CO2 is important, harping on private planes isn't going to make a change.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

That's like saying one person taking their bike to work instead of their car won't do anything, as if their car doesn't burn gas, as if they don't give money to oil companies for that gas.

The same idea with private jets. No matter how small a positive change might be in the grand scope of things, it's still a worthwhile change. That's really the one thing that has to happen so we all don't die; everyone making pro-environmental life choices that will eventually carry over into industry when that collective pressure accumulates, forcing companies that rely on income from those people to change their practice and policy.

[–] _number8_ 4 points 9 months ago

it's kind of a stretch, yeah, but it just feels so gross, in that same way a yacht or plane does, seeing tiktok vids of someone laboriously crafting this gorgeous, perfect meal for one (1) fucking middle-CEO-partner-twat and his family. if you make enough to afford something like that, get fucked, you definitely don't work hard enough to deserve it.

it's probably a way easier shift for the chef than a restaurant dinner rush, which is great, but it's just...such an obscenity to think some have access to this sort of luxury because they shook the right hands at the business office / were born into generational wealth.