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Hillary Clinton is warning about the legality of birth control in the wake of a decision by the Alabama Supreme Court that found frozen embryos created through fertility treatments are children under state law.

“They came for abortion first. Now it’s [in vitro fertilization], and next it’ll be birth control,” the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee and secretary of State said in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

“The extreme right won’t stop trying to exert government control over our most sacred personal decisions until we codify reproductive freedom as a human right,” Clinton added.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At least she wasn't completely useless for this and actually said the word abortion. I haven't heard much from democrats suggesting or pushing any policy or solutions to this crisis. They seem to just leave the field open to let the republicans dominate the discussion.

[–] SkyezOpen 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They treat it the same as Republicans did, a talking point to rally around. That is, until the Republicans actually did something and stacked the Supreme Court. They could have codified roe when Obama was president, but I don't think they even tried or considered the possibility that roe would be overturned.

Now that roe has been killed, women have shifted significantly blue. Why the hell would they actually fix the issue when they can campaign on it for the next decade at least?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They could have codified roe when Obama was president

Or when Clinton was President in '92 or when Biden was President in '21. Multiple opportunities, but they all meant staking a position as a party and not being 300 little local independent influencers, trying to soak up as much campaign cash as they can before the next wave year tosses them out.

[–] assassin_aragorn 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You need 50 Dem senators willing to overturn the filibuster or 60 in favor of abortion. Unfortunately, we've never had those numbers.

It's much more of a problem that we can't find even 10 Republican senators who are willing to enshrine abortion in some fashion.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You need 50 Dem senators willing to overturn the filibuster

Which they have had on repeated occasions.

[–] assassin_aragorn 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

1993, 2007, 2021...

Hell, Bill Frist offered to blow up the Filibuster with the Nuclear Option back in 2003. A minority of Dems could have simply let him, rather than caving on Judicial nominees.

[–] assassin_aragorn 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There were not 50 willing to kill the filibuster in 2021. Manchin and Sinema were against it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There was never a vote for or against removing the Filibuster. The rules decision was one more sloppy rush job by a mismanaged Senate.

[–] assassin_aragorn 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're presupposing then that if there was a vote, they'd have gotten rid of it

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not presupposing anything. I'm observing the failure of the Senate leadership to hold open the vote.

[–] assassin_aragorn 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your argument then is that the Senate could have held a vote to overturn the filibuster, but not that it would necessarily pass. And that would be true for every year and every day, the Senate could have voted on that during every presidential administration.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your argument then is that the Senate could have held a vote to overturn the filibuster

Right. They failed to hold a vote, which is the first necessary step to winning a vote.

[–] assassin_aragorn 1 points 8 months ago

Fair enough I suppose.