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Bruh. No you fucking don't. You want to use society's infrastructure and benefits without contributing to it. If you really want to be left alone, go follow Alexander Supertramp's lead.
Socialism
*Everyone claps
Socialism is NOT whatever the hell this "sovereign citizen" stuff is.
Socialism is instead a democratization of the benefits of our collective labor.
Rather than permit the kings and nobles, billionaires, athletes, movie stars, politicians, and pop idols to take the lion's share - we use it to invest in our society, our collective well being.
You work? I do too. And so do the clerks at the gas stations and grocery stores - the brick layers and the office workers - we're all just working a job for a living.
For the ones that can't or don't want to work - Setting aside the murky definition of "work" - I'd rather they be fed, clothes, housed and warm, because it means safer lives for everyone.
The trick is the ones who don't want to work quickly outnumber the ones who do when you don't need to work for a living.
What evidence are you basing that assertion on?
History.
Quite the powerful and convincing example you've cited there.
Hey, I'm not responsible for your education. Your idea has been tried multiple times. I really don't care whether you're convinced the world is round or not.
it's not his fault you don't know anything
Thats not how communication works. Just spitting out single words and pretending that the other person needs to accept your "facts" is toddler level talk. At that point you might simply not say anything instead of making a fool out of yourself.
Just because YOU'RE a particularly selfish jerk, doesn't mean everyone is. Most people want to contribute and feel useful. Alot of people wouldn't give two shits about flipping burgers if they had a reasonable work environment and could live reasonably from it.
Work is insufferable because most work environments are garbage worlds of drama and living under the guillotine of job cuts or under staffing paired with overwork. With UBI and/or better social benefits, people could breathe for two seconds and find something that fits them well or feel safe leaving a hostile workplace.
They'd still be working, but they could find the right job for them instead of being trapped - which would improve work quality for EVERYONE because a nightmare workplace would just be starved of labor instead of being able to jerk workers around cause the alternative is homelessness.
Oh, I'm so hurt by you lashing out in an ignorant personal attack because your feelings are hurt. There, there. Have a cookie and some milk. Don't you feel better now?
Option A: Once you're in control of yourself again, slow down and think through what you said. It's not very logical. If most people don't have to work to live, they won't. And even if what you say is true "the right job for them" is going to leave a whole lot of essential jobs relatively empty. Some of those jobs are hard to fill even with financial incentive.
Option B: If you can't control yourself, this conversation is now over.
I see you don't have anything to add except flailing over 4 words out of 140 then doubling down on being a catty little child, and a hearty self-masturbatory "nuh uh."
Could just admit you have no counterargument, but either way I'm not obligated to engage with disengenuous tone policing garbage. Bye Felicia.
Look at how many bullshit jobs there are and realise that collectively we don’t need to be doing anywhere near as much work as we do.
Socialism is a form of government. This lot want to be allowed to do whatever the hell they want with no consequence, that's not socialism that's just anarchy.
It's not even anarchy. Most SovCits are cops, but anyway, must other SovCits also want government to exist and provide benefits. For free. With no consequences or laws that would restrict what they themselves do.