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Yup, perfectly responsible gun owner who purchased a perfectly legal gun a perfectly reasonable time before using it. No way a background check could've stopped this, so let's not bother pushing for them.
Every gun owner is a good guy with a gun until they aren’t.
Why does it matter he could've killed his dad woth a knife if he wanted to
But he didn't. He used a gun, like they always use guns.
Fuck are you on about? I have 40+ guns (depending on how you define "gun") and only one, bought from a close friend, without a federal background check.
"GuN sHow LoOpoLe!!" coming up next? Go to a gun show. Buy a gun without a Form 4473. Be my guest.
So by your own admission you have purchased a gun through what many people commonly call the "gun show loophole"
Look, it's a stupid name, I wish people would stop calling it that, it really has nothing to do with gun shows, calling it the "Walmart Parking Lot Loophole" or "My Buddy's Garage Loophole" would be a lot more accurate, and I think people make themselves look uninformed by continuing to use that term, but at the end of the day that's exactly what they're talking about.
I think they're trying to say a background check wouldn't / didn't do anything in this case.
I interpreted Donjuanme's comment as sarcastic, where "no way a background check would've stopped this" implied that they thought a background check wasn't performed, but if it would've been, this murder wouldn't have happened.
Not everyone who commits a violent crime with a gun has a previous record of doing that, or other indicators that would fail a background check for that matter. Not a lot of anti-gunners seem to remember that though, which is partly why I interpreted the comment that way.
Damn, sounds like we should ban guns even harder then if there's no better system than this one that constantly fails.
Still though, weird that so many other countries are doing this impossible thing so much better than America, land of the gun.
America takes awful care of its citizens, some other countries certainly do better. I wish we'd focus more on addressing the root cause issues that push people to commit violence instead of superficial actions like banning weapons, though. Even if all guns disappeared overnight, the conditions that incentivize violence would still be around.
Gun control isn't about curing violence and it never has been. Even 50 years of your social reforms won't cure violence. Gun control is about limiting the damage that violent people are able to do.
To put it bluntly, your views are nothing more than feigned compassion.
I have no idea how you convince yourself that you're the good guy for advocating "I wish there were less violent people but until then, I want to ensure they always have cheap, accessible tools that are able to execute one person every few seconds, even after being charged with domestic abuse or under extreme mental distress".
It's not a "superficial action". It's a measurable, proven harm reduction strategy that could start saving lives the very day it went into effect. It's deeply reprehensible to claim that's a trivial thing, just because you don't think the lives it saves will ever be ones you value.
And of course the cherry on top of all of these dogshit views is that if you're a gun owner, you're financially supporting Republican efforts to block exactly the reforms you're alluding to.
We can do BOTH.