I accidentally watched some youtube shorts and algorithm pushed a ahort about elon and then some shorts about tate . The comment section was acting like they were gods among men and everyone was wanting to be like them or praising them or wanting to follow them .etc . Do they only know who these people are from shit like shorts or reels and not anything else ? I think most of em are teenage boys . It was kinda disturbing anyway what are your thoughts ?

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[–] moistclump 19 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I’m curious about this gender ideological divide that seems to be ramping up. Men listening to guys like Elon, Tate, and Pederson. Women, Yknow, wanting control of their bodies and not wanting to date Trump supporters.

I really wonder what the solution is. Compassion? Education? Engaged inquiry and curiosity being intentionally developed as a skill in young people?

[–] xkforce 10 points 9 months ago

Investigate tech companies. They know what theyre doing is causing political polarization to get worse.

[–] Delphia 9 points 9 months ago

Ive had this discussion with my wife.

Young (teenage) men are CONSTANTLY hearing about "Toxic Masculinity" with no real explanation as to what that is while they watch girls bully each other into eating disorders. Being told to "Respect women" but not what that means in practical terms, being told to not objectify women while their body is literally pumping them full of sex hormones. Regularly hearing and seeing stories about how "men" or the patriarchy are responsible for everything wrong in the world. Then here comes the confident man with the Lamborghini telling them "Nope being a dude is awesome, dont listen to those bitches. Look at my lavish lifestyle and these attractive women. Be like me, have this! Look at all the guys doing what the women say, do any of them live like me?"

Add in some good old fashioned teenage rebellion and the possibility of a lack of good close male role models...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Women, Yknow, wanting control of their bodies and not wanting to date Trump supporters.

Good for them for having an actual brain and not dating trump supporters.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they necessarily don't want to date Trump supporters, as much as Trump supporters are all dickheads and no one wants to date those people anyway.

[–] Dkarma 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's the difference?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Because the women were already not going to date those people before Trump became a politician. This isn't a new phenomenon.

These guys have been jerks their whole lives.

[–] mods_are_assholes 2 points 9 months ago

There is no 'solution', no amount of education or compassion will change them for the most part.

You will see occasional defectors but never enough to stem the growing tide of young entitled male bigotry.

In order to treat this, we need to address wealth inequality and the collapse of upward mobility.

Both of those take decades, and we don't have that kind of time.

[–] needthosepylons 1 points 9 months ago

I honestly don't know, but I'm afraid it won't end well at all.