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[–] UnderpantsWeevil 112 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The year is 2006 and Republicans are killing a compromise deal that they all admitted they actually liked.

The year is 2014 and Republicans are killing a compromise deal that they all admitted they actually liked.

The year is 2024 and the GOP is about to win in a landslide on the "Democrats never get anything done" platform, so I guess you can't argue with their results.

[–] Veneroso 60 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Idk if I believe that.

We're about to see a lot of "unlikely voters" turning out....

And to think, running the same guy who tried to cling to power with a self coup after losing the last election in a landslide to the guy you lost to 4 years ago who's supreme court justices "Roe is settled law" brought about headlines of suffering and skyrocketing teen pregnancy.....

Anyway remember that foreign policy is about power, not morality. And if "both sides are the same" no, one side is corporate shills and the other are fascist sycophants.

Not voting for Biden or Not Voting is a vote for the Christian Caliphate where white is right but only if you're a straight male. Everyone else can stay in the kitchen or go to the camps. History doesn't repeat but it rhymes

[–] ChunkMcHorkle 56 points 10 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)
[–] flicker 26 points 10 months ago

My uterus is downright furious. I'm so glad it can't read or it might try arson.

[–] assassin_aragorn 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Amen.

Never forget that Democrats were supposed to lose the midterms in a landslide and the economy was the top priority, supposedly. They barely lost the House but made gains in the Senate. And I think if you ask Republicans if they feel like winners in the House... Well, we can all see how that's been going.

[–] Veneroso 6 points 10 months ago

And then the clown show that is the house is proving that they don't know how to govern....

[–] Macallan 6 points 10 months ago
[–] sysadmin420 3 points 10 months ago
[–] frostysauce 10 points 10 months ago

We're about to see a lot of "unlikely voters" turning out....

I'll fucking believe that when I see it.

[–] cybersandwich 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I dont think that will fly this time. It's VERY obvious now that they can't do ANYTHING in the house. Their ability to govern has been laid bare.

Meanwhile Biden managed to pass some of the most meaningful and useful legislation in decades with the previous congress. So even if Republicans do nothing, Biden's done more than the last two presidents to move the needle.

Also, they got clowned hard. Biden admitted he'd shut down the border--which is what they were clamoring for him to do. Then they killed it. They dont care about the border and its obvious. This isn't going to be laid at Dems feet.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 8 points 10 months ago

It’s VERY obvious now that they can’t do ANYTHING in the house.

But it is equally obvious that guys like Abbot and DeSantis have an open hand to act as they please on the border. That's where this gets dangerous.

By bogging down the legislative process and allowing Biden to twiddle his thumbs in the White House, we have transferred enormous amounts of power to the border states with the most horrific people in charge. The GOP decision to kill the bill was calculated, as it accrued authority to their allies in the Southwest.

Also, they got clowned hard.

They got laughed at by the same group of jokers who were going to point and laugh at them regardless. Meanwhile, right-wing talk radio is spinning this as a victory for the Immigration Absolutists and a rallying cry for the Trump Presidential campaign.

Democrats have shown their hand on what they will concede. Republicans are in a strong position to advance their majorities in House and Senate into the next cycle. That puts the ball in their court, even if Mike Johnson personally looks like a weak Speaker. Republicans don't care if he's weak, because they've put all their chips on Trump anyway.

[–] Passerby6497 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The year is 2024 and the GOP is about to win in a landslide on the "Democrats never get anything done" platform, so I guess you can't argue with their results.

~~2018 is going to be a red wave~~

~~2020 is going to be a red wave~~

~~2022 is going to be a red wave~~

Surely 2024 will be a red wave!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 10 months ago

You left out 2016, 2014, 2010, 2002, and 1994.

Surely 2024 will be a red wave!

The gains Dems have made in the Midwest are heavily predicated on minority voters (particularly Arab Americans) sticking with the party. And it looks like Biden's getting ready to piss all that away.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So, these elections are basically down to independent voters.

Not the leftists that hate both parties and say they're independent voters

Not the libertarians that hate both parties and say they're independent

But the actual independents, especially those in swing states - that vote for either opposing party - is what these elections come down to.

And weve already seen how they voted in the midterms, despite a shit economy.

If it's Biden versus Trump, I'd wager it's a Biden win

[–] normalexit 10 points 10 months ago

I hate both parties and I say I'm independent, as I realize they are both beholden to their corporate interests and lobbyists.

The system isn't designed for people with good ideas to emerge and change things for the better, but I like to think at some point in the future individuals like that could win outside of party lines. They have us all mixed up in these culture wars while the rich people keep on getting richer at an accelerated pace.

But you are right, I'm going to vote for my version of less crazy, along with everyone else, and we'll collectively go nowhere until the current crop of politicians age out or die.