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Where do you get your numbers?
CDC states about 28 deaths per year by lightning strike. https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/lightning/victimdata/infographic.html
22 deaths can be attributed to the shooting in Uvalde alone. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022
"There’s been an on-campus shooting ‘pretty much every single school day’ this fall, the founder of the K-12 School Shooting Database said." https://www.k12dive.com/news/2022-worst-year-for-school-shootings/639313/
Probably the numbers are right from the NRA? /s
You don't need to use /s here
In 2023 there were 14 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023
In 2022 there were 28 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022
444 over 15 years is 29 a year
https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/lightning/victimdata.html
Maybe you should reconsider why you struggle to believe that school shootings are actually extremely rare freak events. It's likely because the media sensationalizes them and acts like they are a much larger problem than they really are in order to promote gun control.
“You’re more likely to be killed by a hippo in Africa than you are by a school shooting in the US”.
The comparison is made up because it’s convenient. They might as well have compared school shootings to worldwide hippopotamus attacks (~500 year), it’s every bit as pointless.
No, it's not pointless. The point is that no one is demanding my rights be infringed because of hippo attacks. I don't get a breaking news alert when a hippo kills someone. School shootings are promoted by the media when in reality they should be treated like any other violent crime which is to say reported on but not in a sensationalized way to push a political agenda.
Yeah yeah yeah, I get it. You’re fine with the death and suffering so you can enjoy your guns. You don’t want to hear about those people being killed either. You want to be sheltered from the consequences of your hobby.
The right to self defense is not a hobby and many lives are saved by firearms. The majority of gun violence is due to gang activity. Why don't I hear politicians or people on social media like you decrying the problems of gangs? It seems there is a concerted effort to ignore the root of the problem and instead hyper focus on taking away guns. Have you ever seen a breaking news event when a gang member kills a child? I don't remember the President speaking out on those ones. Why not? Why don't I see Democrats or the President speaking out on gangs and trying to enact legislation to put an end to the organized crime that is behind most firearm deaths?
Uhm, gangs killing people is certainly already very much illegal?..how do you plan to dissolve the problem at its root by legislation, exactly?
And how many lives are saved by guns vs taken away by said guns? There's a reason almost every single country on planet Earth has decided to outlaw firearms for self-defence.
If we want to reduce violence and save lives, we not only need to work with the problem at its core - it's essential, but not enough and doesn't deliver the results you dream of - we should also remove the means by which said violence is executed as much as possible to curb violence now.
Your "right to self-defense" is paid by lives of people who were shot with legally purchased guns in a criminal attack. Everyone carrying guns, overall, does not make country safer, which is a thing just about everyone realized like almost a century ago.
In 2023 there were 14 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023
In 2022 there were 28 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022
That is counting any death that occurred on any kind of school property including universities. The school shooting concept is heavily promoted by the media and that is why people think it is an out of control problem when in reality, like I said, more people die of lightning strikes. The comments here show the hysteria. A vanishingly small number of people are killed in school shootings. People commonly refer to winning to lottery as being less likely than being struck by lightning. It is a common phrase to demonstrate an extremely unlikely event.
The question people should be asking is why the media is hyper focused on promoting these. There would likely be even less school shootings if the media wasn't essentially promoting them to mentally ill people as a way to act out and get attention. Many psychologists have stated this, that the attention, the "breaking news event", the round the clock coverage, the attention reaching the levels of the President if someone shoots people on a school campus is actually what causes people to commit those acts. They want a platform and the media gives it to them because ultimately they want to promote gun control and as you see it works quite well to that end.