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I mean, Hamas's actions are pretty unambiguously war crimes.
They were definitely terrorist actions, not sure about war crimes. But what the IDF are doing is definitely war crimes.
Attacking civilian targets and taking civilian hostages are both very unambiguously war crimes.
Yes, and they're also clearly terrorism.
But then, Israel have been reportedly and apparently focusing on "power targets", which are defined as those with little to no military value, where the goal is to destabilise the civilian population such that they put pressure on Hamas to enact change. "Using violence against civilians in pursuit of a political goal" is the dictionary definition of terrorism.
Both acts are horrific, and above the threshold of anything that could be considered acceptable. It frankly isn't even worth comparing the two to try and figure out which one is worse - to do so would only tarnish your soul. They're different, but they're both unequivocally wrong.
This is a very good post and true.
Wow, we two finally agree on something.
They are war crimes but they are very clearly not genocide.
Only for lack of success.
I mean, their founding constitution literally says death to Israel. Lack of success is literally the only reason why.
Doesn't justify Israel war crime, but people should atleast understand what both sides goals are.
No, no, they totally and radically changed in 2017, please ignore any history, context, statements, or actions past that point.
Good point. A renewed charter can be a sign of change but also a sign of trying to normalize one's organization.
No it was pretty clear that they were not trying eradicate everyone. You don't get 33% military kills when you're going for genocide.
They shouldn't have killed any civilians, but I understand why they'd attack an illegal settlement right outside their open air prison.
Also their voiced intention is to kill all jews everywhere – which is a genocide.
So the fact that Hamas did war crimes is a license for Israel to do the same against 10x times more civilians in Gaza, is that what you are saying?
Too bad they're too busy going after Iran instead
https://www.israeltoday.co.il/read/analysis-israel-and-the-genocide-case-against-iran-at-the-icj/
Let's hear some more from the "experts":