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[–] afraid_of_zombies 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I suppose

Difference between me and you. I know, you suppose. Nice attempt at strawmannning by the way. Ding ding ding logixal fallacy ding ding ding

information beyond your ability to sense is impossible,

Nope. I hold no such belief. I have consistently mentioned in this thread the nature of the lack of evidence and you have attempted that to get me to lower my standards instead of presenting it.

your love of science and rationality has twisted into science fundamentalism.

I have been called much worse by much better.

You remind me of myself in my youth. Humility certainly gets easier with age. I recommend dialing back the antagonism a bit, I warn you that in 10, 15 years you’re going to look back and cringe.

Ok Grandpa thanks for the fucking life advice

f you’re anything like I was, that warning won’t make a difference though. It’s strange being on the other side. I wish it could be otherwise, but it’s unlikely. I suppose if there were a way to effectively communicate this, then I could’ve been spared a great deal of bitterness when I was younger. Alas.

Wouldn't worry about it. I know myself pretty decently and doubt I will ever fall to mystical wishful thinking. But hey I could get dementia one day in which case you can explain to mentally crippled me all about your shadow people. While I sit there and think it is 1998.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Difference between me and you. I know, you suppose

Yes I noticed. Certainty is irrational.

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/8269895

[–] afraid_of_zombies 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Certainty is irrational.

Are you certain of that? If so it is irrational. Are you not certain of that? That means you can't assert it.

Any attempt to claim that knowledge doesn't exist or that reason isn't rational is always doomed to failure.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] afraid_of_zombies 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't click random links. If you got an argument go ahead and make it. You shouldn't need someone to do your thinking for you even if you believe knowledge is impossible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't have the time or energy to explain the fundamentals of science to you. Karl Popper did so extensively already.

Ultimately, your behavior and beliefs are your business. I was just trying to offer some insight from the perspective of someone who used to have the same beliefs and behavior. Like I said, I don't particularly expect you to listen. I wouldn't have.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Acting above things doesn't make you above it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Like I said, your behavior is your business. Refusing to benefit from the experience of others is a lonely and stunted existence, but the only one who can choose to change your behavior is you. I hope your teenage years aren't as bitter as mine were.

[–] afraid_of_zombies -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Noticed how you couldn't produce evidence you instead made it about me?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Evidence about what?

That human perception is fundamentally limited and that scientific rationality isn't a complete corpus of absolute facts, but a tool that can only refine models to make them more internally consistent, which occasionally has blind spots? The evidence is every heretofore discarded scientific theory.

That there have been found invisible entities, originally laughed away as nonsense, only to be vindicated years later but improvements in sensory abilities? The evidence is germ theory.