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It’s possible that the enforcement of a rate limit isn’t because of AI scraping, but rather because they failed to migrate before the June 30th deadline.

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[–] Danatronic 266 points 2 years ago (6 children)

It's so fucking funny how Twitter and Reddit are imploding on the exact same day lmao.

[–] [email protected] 171 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Spez did say Musk's Twitter was something to be admired and emulated lol

[–] Marxine 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They seem really aligned in their goals then!

[–] Drunemeton 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mean he finally did something right? 🤣

[–] Viking_Hippie 12 points 2 years ago

Regardless of whether you mean Musk or Spez: no. He did not do anything right. Probably hasn't for years.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 years ago (1 children)

End-of-quarter. Companies often make decisions quarter by quarter and 6/30 was the last day of Q2.

[–] Empyreus 43 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I always forget how important quarters are in the business world.

[–] NotYourSocialWorker 17 points 2 years ago

Companies would rather cut their noses of in the end of a quarter, to claim a weight loss, than do something that would spell positive results for its lifetime...

[–] alaphic 16 points 2 years ago

50 Cent's success as a business man suddenly starts making a lot more sense, eh?

[–] cogman 7 points 2 years ago

I work in financial reporting. Hard thing for me to forget. Our stuff could suffer literal days long outages and like 99% of our clients wouldn't care. But when a quarter rolls around? We need like 99.9999999% uptime through it.

I swear quarters are the only time C level people are doing any sort of work.

[–] xXxDickBonerz69xXx 39 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Is reddit actually imploding or is it just business as usual?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's too early to tell but I'm spending more time on Lemmy.

[–] jarfil 31 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Depends on where you go.

Subs like r/worldnews and r/tech have bottom of the barrel comments, but still manage to get some posts.

r/IAmA had many of the mods leave, so the remaining ones are stopping all "out of Reddit" activities, like recruiting celebrities, verifying identities, and so on. It's pretty much worthless now.

Small niche subs are still working, but the equivalent communities on Lemmy are getting better quality right now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Worldnews has always skewed a little to the right but the comments I read on a post about the immigrants drowning absolutely disgusted me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

a little to the right

Not just a little.

[–] jarfil 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There have been some posts where the comments have been 100% memes and off-topic.

IMHO the strongest point of news aggregators like Reddit, is the extra information that isn't in the linked article, otherwise there is no benefit over an RSS feed reader.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

There are also probably many bot answers now at the top.

[–] Clbull -1 points 2 years ago

I was wrongly banned from that place three years ago for posting a comment that was critical of how Saudi Arabia and other conservative Middle Eastern nations treat women. I'd say they're far from a right-wing place.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, what app are you using to post with? I notice that your comment posted three times.

[–] jarfil 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used Jerboa, but lemmy.ml seems to be having some serious overload problems and Jerboa doesn't seem to recover gracefully. I've switched to Liftoff and while it still gets errors from lemmy.ml, at least it retries better, or doesn't timeout, or something.

[–] BottleOfAlkahest 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm on lemmy.world and jerboa seems to constantly log me out after a relatively short period of time. I've also switched to lift off and that seems to be a bit better. Just as many errors but I don't need to back all the way out to log in again all the time

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Try wefwef.app!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Most of my favorite smaller communities on Reddit (50-500k members) are gone permanently. A couple of them were basically forums run by a niche YouTuber with a couple of helper mods, to talk about topics related to their channel. Those people didn’t want to deal with trying to use Reddit anymore, so they just closed down. It’s basically impossible to bring a community like that back, when the person it exists around is gone.

I don’t see Reddit stepping in for all of those smaller communities, so they’re just gone entirely. And that was where most of the value was for me. So yeah, its completely worthless to me at this point to even use Reddit.

[–] Clbull 2 points 2 years ago

A few subs like r/news, r/leagueoflegends and r/worldnews crossed the picket line without so much as acknowledging the blackout.

[–] obinice 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been wondering. I'm not giving them the satisfaction of getting the traffic so I can check, but who knows, really.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

for me it's been a slow process to transfer my reddit addiction to lemmy, so i'm still somewhat on there, but it's nowhere close to what it has been like before the protests. a lot of my communities are still closed, others have reopened but there's a noticeably lower volume.

reopen/stay closed discussions also show an interesting pattern of skewing more and more towards reopen the longer they go on, suggesting that the people who want reddit to stay closed have left, which is consistent with how the rest of the platform feels.

i doubt that many lurkers have seen the same effect yet (in fact, i noticed a pattern with the people expressing support for reopen, that they rarely comment at all, so my guess is the lurkers heavily favor reopening) but we'll likely see a delayed effect in their numbers and/or engagement as well, as the content they're supplied gets fewer and lower quality.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It comes down to finances, right? Hard to tell what those currently look like, but I read that their evaluation estimate dropped by something like 7% to 5,5 billion USD in recent time.

[–] shoelace 12 points 2 years ago

That was as of May 31st, before any of the drama. So it's too soon to tell what the impact was from June's events.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not to sound paranoid, but it’s kind of worrying.

In recent years, these sites have been used to pass information quickly during crisis. This can be anything like natural disaster, or uprising and protests.

These big aggregators being incompetently, mismanaged and taken down from public use at the same time, makes me wonder if it’s an attempt to quash communication that’s not coming from a government or mega-corp.

The revolution will not be televised.. by the people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeahhhh, I've been getting less news information since moving to Lemmy. The communities are here, but they have some growing to do.

And then there's the issue of them growing into the correct servers. For example, my first day here I caught a mod on lemmy.ml banning a user for posting an Axios article about China on World News because "Orientalism". The article was a pretty common western take on the Xi Xinping succession plan. Really nothing uniquely anti-China. That especially raises eyebrows given the many conversations had about Lemmy's communist roots from its devs.

Which isn't to say Lemmy as a whole is tainted - just the dev community, lemmy.ml. So I ethically feel the need to avoid their World News community and only use lemmy.world's World News community, but that places me into an even smaller and more split community, giving me even less information. All I can think is that I need to be the change I want to see and intentionally post to/comment on the lemmy.world World News community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You should try Mastodon for news, it does a better job of it currently. I think lemmy will step up soon but it's not there yet.https://assortedflotsam.com/@NewsBot/

[–] solongaphasia 6 points 2 years ago

two peas in a pod

[–] TheHog 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I, and many others, truly believe it is deliberate and orchestrated, primeraly to shut down the likes of r/superstonk and other subs that are fighting wall street corruption.

[–] Hanhanbu 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] darkpanda 3 points 2 years ago