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[–] [email protected] 85 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Come now, we've invaded far fewer of the world's countries than the UK.

The real hypocrisy is that every last fucking one of us comes from immigrants, and yet half of us are eager to pull up the ladder behind us.

[–] Mr_Blott 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Invaded fewer, yes. Destabilised for greed and oil, causing mass migration to European countries, that's a whole other story lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I was napping when they asked us if they should do that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago

Wait, was I complaining? Can you even read?

[–] olutukko 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Except the natives who people just like to forget

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

we might be forgot but we never forget

its just that we want our ancestral land to be preserved and respected. Rare have I ever heard someone from the rez hate on refuges. Our anger is purely with the way we are treated by our own federal government and by corporations.

So if you need to leave your homeland because of reasons?

Let's continue what was started in 1492

LET THE REFUGES COME AND BE PROSPEROUS. JUST LIKE YOUR ANCESTORS.

The great turtle island is big enough to hold us all on her back. Boarders should never exist.

[–] AngryCommieKender 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Borders*

Boarders can be cool people

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

If that's the only flaw in my English, I will call that a win!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Alright, every last one of us who isn't of 'pure blood' in the US comes from immigrants.

[–] SpezBroughtMeHere 2 points 9 months ago

That would included those that you consider 'natives'.

[–] jaybone 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Didn’t the natives immigrate from Asia?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Correct. Between 30,000 and 16,000 years ago, humans came to North America from Siberia..

At least as far as we know so far.

[–] AngryCommieKender 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

They found a footprint in San Diego, back in the late 90s that shows that people were here at least ~~120,000~~ 20,000 years ago or some shit.

[–] JustZ 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oldest found in North America is 23,000 years old.

A 120,000 year old footprint was found in Saudi Arabia, obviously that is the cradle of civilization, as far as we know.

[–] AngryCommieKender 1 points 9 months ago

Shit I conflated the two, thanks.

[–] SpezBroughtMeHere 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep. There's no 'natives'. Shits been getting invaded and conquered forever.

[–] Blue_Morpho 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People have been dying from measles for forever. We know better now and can stop.

[–] SpezBroughtMeHere 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Blue_Morpho 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just because everything was invaded in the past doesn't mean we can't do it differently in the future.

[–] SpezBroughtMeHere 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How does either of your comments relate to my point of there being no natives?

[–] Blue_Morpho 0 points 9 months ago

The idea that there are no natives and everywhere has been invaded forever implies that is the normal way of things.

[–] olutukko 4 points 9 months ago

Well yeah but so long ago that I wouldn't really count that as immigration in modern sense. Since technically everyone is immigrant except the bery first humans that existed. And if you really want to stretch it far we all immigrated from the sea before we even were humans

[–] lledrtx 0 points 9 months ago

Everyone originates from Africa.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

To be fair the UK hasn't invaded many countries that still exist. Their creation of new countries is responsible for about half of global conflicts, but the didn't invade those countries.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

They are the descendants of those broken countries tho

[–] supercriticalcheese 1 points 9 months ago

First sentence is pretty much invalidated by your second one.