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[–] licherally 33 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don't disagree with this, but Hamas was created by Israel, and now Israel is bombing all of Gaza because of Hamas. It really seems like Israel has been planning this genocide for a loooong time.

[–] GhostsAreShitty 7 points 11 months ago

“Every society has the criminals it deserves.”

  • Emma Goldman

Can’t blame anyone for retaliating against the shit conditions they’ve been put in.

[–] polysexualstick 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In the same vein, Israel's right-wing regime was in no small part created by Islamist hostilities towards Israel and Jewish people from the very start

[–] licherally 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Do you mean prior to the Israeli occupation of Palestine in 1967? Because I think it's somewhat reasonable to be hostile towards an occupational force.

Not a gotcha I'm genuinely curious at what point in history you are referring to, apologies if it sounds antagonistic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Not only an occupational force, but one extending colonial rule with arguably as bad or worse treatment of the native populace (and no, jews moving to Israel are not native to the land just because that was true a long time ago and they have a book telling them it is so).

[–] DoomBot5 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How are you just casually missing 20 years of history before that? Not to mention the preceeding 1000 years.

[–] licherally 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So you're saying Israel has a right to genocide Palestine because of the previous thousand years of history before 1967?

We can cherry pick timelines if we want to, but the fact is that Israel has occupied Palestine for the last 50 years. This is why Hamas exists, and this is the issue we face today.

The previous thousand years only serve as propaganda for modern Israel to be on board with the genocide.

This is just straight up islamophobic rhetoric

[–] DoomBot5 -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow, those leaps could set a world record. Get real. You're cherry picking and then accusing me of cherry picking?

[–] licherally 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What leaps are you referring to?

[–] DoomBot5 -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you knew anything about what you said, you'd be able to figure that out yourself.

[–] licherally 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you're not going to provide any context at all? I'm not going to give you your answer for you.

Tell me what leaps you are referring to so that I can better educate myself, or fuck off. It is truly that simple.

[–] DoomBot5 0 points 11 months ago

You've already proven you don't give a shit about educating yourself with your previous comment. I bought that bullshit once, I won't again.

[–] JigglySackles -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This has been an incredibly slow genocide for decades

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well yes, they are well versed in history, right-wing politicians in Israel view the conflict on a biblical time scale and believe they are regaining their holy land. They are doing it as carefully and deliberately as they can, which is difficult and time consuming because they are supported by the West who mostly doesn't want them to commit genocide. Without the support of the West, Israel would be much more likely to be defeated by the numerous enemies that surround them.