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Apple plans to charge fees for sideloading (9to5mac.com)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/technology

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Who would've thought? This isn’t going to fly with the EU.

Article 5.3 of the Digital Markets Act (DMA): "The gatekeeper shall not prevent business users from offering the same products or services to end users through third-party online intermediation services or through their own direct online sales channel at prices or conditions that are different from those offered through the online intermediation services of the gatekeeper."

Friendly reminder that you can sideload apps without jailbreaking or paying for a dev account using TrollStore, which utilises core trust bugs to bypass/spoof some app validation keys, on a iPhone XR or newer on iOS 14.0 up to 16.6.1. (ANY version for iPhone X and older)

Install guide: Trollstore

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I just can't not have a back button that's always in the same place!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What button? Haven't used a button on android for years now. Except power+volume ofc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

One of the 3 virtual buttons that always display (4 for me since I have the accessibility button displayed also). (Background, homepage, and back- reverse order for standard android. I have Samsung)

[–] AnUnusualRelic 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why not use the standard swiping gestures, it's much more convenient and much faster.

[–] Soggy 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I hate gesture controls. Even more fiddly and imprecise than fake buttons. Pinch zoom, scroll, and change page are more than enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How come it's more fiddly? It works soooo smooth and reliable. And that coming from a dude who can't type one error-free word on the phone.

[–] Soggy 0 points 10 months ago

My general problem with touchscreen controls is chance of error and lack of feedback. I want buttons. I don't want to accidentally do a thing because I idly swiped at the screen while looking away briefly.

[–] focusedkiwibear 1 points 10 months ago

lol the gesture controls on modern smartphones are overwhelmingly less fiddly (read: not at all) than your horrible excuses for defending an outdated piece of technology like 'buttons' when much better options exist.

[–] focusedkiwibear 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

lol back button - how freaking 2000s. buddy we just move our finger left on the screen and we go back. like are you a caveman? this is Android fans these days, crowing about obsolete pieces of their technology like it was good. it wasn't then it really isn't now.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Swiping from the left is almost universally a go back in ios.

With android's gestures it simulates pressing the back button which is really awful. But iOS does swipes correctly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Only if apps follow the IOS design patterns. I know at my previous company, we didn't. And neither does the official Reddit app: https://frankrausch.com/ios-navigation

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hahaha iOS swipe is awful.

If you 4 finger swipe now it goes back to previous app. Do it again now it goes to the app you just left. Wait a few seconds and it's anybodies guess where it goes.

Even worse if you bring down the "notification" screen... Supposedly swiping up makes it go away, but it rarely works. Same with pulling up the app bar while in ful screen apps - that takes two swipes, and the second one has to be just so, not too fast, not too slow, and within some weird timing - try it too soon and it just doesn't respond.

Apple's swiping system is just a fucked up mess. (I use iOS all day long).

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 1 points 10 months ago

Swiping to go back to a previous app isn't the best, but Androids implementation is just as janky. Once you figure out what the delay is for the current app to be the "latest app" then it's not awful.

Maybe iPad OS is different, but I don't ever have any issues with full screen apps on regular iOS.