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[–] FlyingSquid 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if every bar in town refuses to serve black people? What if instead of bars, it was the only supermarket in town? Welcome to the South pre-civil rights. And don't tell me that people didn't know about it since it was pre-internet. It was widely-known about by pretty much everyone that being black in the South meant you were not allowed into all sorts of businesses.

And that's what you want to go back to. That's so liberal of you.

[–] danc4498 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Again, there's a difference between saying no businesses in town will serve them and they have plenty of access to the service, but want to force the biggots to serve them. If it's a problem with access, yes, government should be able to step in and force the hands of the bigots.

I will say, though, I don't know the implications of the SC judgement. Maybe they don't care about access, I just know when I looked into this a while ago, access was a big part of the case. The [probably fake] customer could have gone anywhere, but was trying to force the biggots to do business with them.

And that’s what you want to go back to. That’s so liberal of you.

I also think we live in a wildly different society than the south in the 60s. No way we will go back there. If society ends up trending that way, I absolutely think the government should step in and reverse course, but I just don't think that will happen.

[–] WetBeardHairs 3 points 1 year ago

There are enough small towns where the permitting process legally allows the city council to prevent the establishment of new businesses and effectively create local monopolies. No new grocery stores, hardware stores, etc. Guess what - if you piss them off, you cant get your house fixed or buy food. Build a restaurant? Well, you're going to have to make daily runs to another city for supplies.

This ruling gives those small towns even more control because TPTB can blackball anyone now with impunity.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago

How do you effectively apply "you can refuse service to anyone unless the whole town refuses service to a specific group of people" as a law?

[–] theoldgreymare 2 points 1 year ago

I think the fact we had Trump as President for 4 years shows how little it would take to get swaths of this country back to "the south in the 60s." And as one who grew up in California in the 60s, the poison was spread far from the south. And it persists to this day. Look at the way color imbalance tracks with wealth imbalance.