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[–] RestrictedAccount 106 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Adam Smith, who is considered to be quite the capitalist, said that it is impossible to have a free market if the participants cannot choose not to participate.

Letting Doctors use the “free market” set medical prices is not only sinful, it is not justifiable by the most originalist economic theory.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Blaming doctors for insurance, pharmaceutical, and healthcare companies prices is a bit rich.

Letting capitalists into healthcare is the issue, not the fucking doctors. Shit the doctors are probably just as indebted to their student loans as their patients are to the hospitals, while getting reamed with fucked 24/36 hour shifts and overworked to the bone.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People don't seem to understand that the entire medical profession is structured around exploitation — where they still expect you to work 80+ hour weeks back to back, often with shifts that last 18+ hours, and a few hours sleep in between.

Lumping the medical scientists/professionals with medical capitalists is class warfare.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

My primary care doctor of 20+ years just quit the practice. He confided in me that it just wasn't worth it for him to keep dealing with the crazy demands and dwindling rewards. He is one of about 150k doctors who left the profession in the last couple years.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The ACA was supposed to have a public option that would put a control on the insurance prices. Ideally the public option would be so good that the insurance industry would just wither and die.

But the health insurance industry, mainly via Joe Lieberman, made sure that was never going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Universal healthcare > cheap ACA insurance

Don’t settle for less.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't settle, but at least accept while still demanding more.

Nothing is served by wallowing in failure by only accepting non-existent perfection.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Momentum matters.

Accepting a bone here and there stops many from being hungry enough to demand more. It’s the whole reason Bismarck invented State Socialism to stop the growing threat of leftist ideas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It was meant to be the first step in a progression that would have led to universal healthcare. Unfortunately, America figured out how to maim it and halt progress. In fact, America figured out how to regress in so many ways, not just in the arena of healthcare.

Only America can fail as hard and fast as America once succeeded.

[–] thallamabond 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget Joe Lieberman is one of the founders of the No Labels party.

https://www.nolabels.org/meettheteam

If you want to know who NOT to trust, check the link

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The website looks like all Sunshine and rainbows. Now I'm really curious why they can't be trusted.

[–] thallamabond 4 points 9 months ago

Jmho. As a political party you need a platform, as far as I can tell No Labels platform is "can't we all just get along?"

Also their members make up a who's who of keeping actual legislation from happening, starting with Joe Lieberman for removing a single pair option from the ACA. Rumor has it they have courted Kristen Simena and Joe's manchin.

Also Harland Crowe is rumored to be a big funder, as far as I'm concerned these people represent money and nothing else.

[–] grue 27 points 9 months ago

Letting Doctors use the “free market” set medical prices is not only sinful, it is not justifiable by the most originalist economic theory.

That's not even what's happening. It's vampire middlemen setting the prices, which is even worse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately Capitalism by its very nature abhors a free market. Free markets mean more competition, which means less profits. Which is counter to the ideology of capitalism, that being higher profits mean success.

[–] grue 8 points 9 months ago

Capitalism is fundamentally unstable and will devolve into monopoly and autocracy if not regulated to prevent it.