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Less than three months into Mike Johnson’s tenure as speaker of the House, some House Republicans are already experiencing buyer’s remorse.

Texas Representative and Freedom Caucus member Chip Roy on Monday publicly raised the possibility of dumping Johnson as speaker.

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[–] Stovetop 27 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If they dump Johnson, hopefully some of the more moderate Republicans would agree to back Jeffries just for some semblance of stability.

[–] newthrowaway20 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It'll never happen. They want to oust Johnson for working with Democrats. What makes you think they'll vote for a Democrat?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

"They" is a minority of House Republicans. The majority of House Republicans are also frustrated with them. However, since the Republican majority is so razor thin, they are in a 'most intolerant wins' situation; where the most obstroctionist minority dictates what happens. If they can get a deal with even a few democrats, they can break the dynamic. Even the credible threat of doing so might be enough to pull everyone in line.

Having said that, the more plausible path is a deal where a more moderate Republican gets Democrat support (likely in exchange for rules changes giving the minority party more power)

[–] Stovetop 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I also assume it'll never happen, but just bear in mind that the people looking to oust Johnson would be different from the people who might hypothetically be convinced to work with the Democrats.

The republicans have a very slim majority, needle thin. The reason why the vocal MAGA republicans can wield all this power to remove someone from the speaker position is that they can initiate a vote to remove a speaker for being too cooperative with democrats, while the democrats themselves will support any move to remove a republican from being the speaker. A somewhat ironic situation given that the MAGAs are basically working with the democrats to make this happen.

If the democrats can work with a group of moderate republicans to elect their preferred speaker, however, the MAGA republicans lose a lot of their power. They'd no longer have support from the democrat half of the house to remove the speaker and would instead need to somehow convince the moderate members of their party to follow their lead on any further attempts to oust the speaker, which they likely would not accomplish.

[–] Burninator05 4 points 10 months ago

The Republicans who want to oust Johnson are different from the Republicans who are willing to reluctantly work with the Dems on basic governance.

[–] JeeBaiChow 1 points 10 months ago

So they can blame the democrat speaker for why nothing got done in the last 4 years?

[–] captainlezbian 12 points 10 months ago

Yeah my hope is that their absolute clown show costs them some seats. Cooperation won’t happen. But they’re betting on this hurting the Dems more

[–] billwashere 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I’d put money on Trump actually serving prison time before any R votes for a democrat. Party before country always.

[–] Rootiest 1 points 10 months ago

Trump is gonna get offered the Speaker position

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

log cabin exist