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[–] rsuri 58 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's interesting to look back at his AMA on reddit in 2015. Every response was so to the point and on topic, even friendly. Clearly something changed since then.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I like John Oliver's take that he really didn't like the orders to shut down factories during pandemic and got a lot of support from 'mah freedom' nutjobs over this causing not-so-slow fall into the extreme right rabbit hole. It actually makes a lot of sense. He clearly craves attention and approval. He used to get it from the left because electric cars are green and SpaceX is cool technology but eventually the left began demanding more regulation and he started getting some criticism (which he doesn't like that much...). At the same time he noticed that the right is ready to accept him as the 'free speech savior' and love him unconditionally as long as he will help them 'own the libs' so he switched sides.

[–] captainlezbian 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think that Some More News’s take on it also gets to the point. He got vocally anti union and the left got vocally anti billionaire. Many CEOs seem to take pro union sentiment personally and he seems to be particularly sensitive.

[–] Scotty_Trees 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Their videos are great! They are as informative as they are depressing. Man, the truth really does hurt sometimes!

Some More News YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Fun facts, the Cody Showdy (Some More News) is from the Cracked.com days. They have since obviously persisted on YT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracked.com#Video_content

[–] butterflyattack 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I am guessing he had good publicists, probably decided he could do the job better and got rid of them just before the pedo thing.

[–] dustyData 7 points 10 months ago

Pretty much. After fucking up PayPal and getting kicked out for being an insufferable POS, he hired a PR firm who constructed the real life Tony Stark image for him on the public. Writing and getting press around his person. They also unfortunately had to tell him to not say or do certain stuff that would damage his image, there's nothing a narcissist hates more than being told no. They also allowed him to position Tesla as the futuristic libertarian ideal and the overpriced manufacturers they are now, and SpaceX as the renaissance of US space exploration. In my opinion not entirely undeserved perceptions but immensely amplified by a marketing machinery. Then he had a meltdown, fired every single PR, marketing person from every single one of his companies. Declared himself the only marketing that his companies needed. He essentially bought into the crap that his own PR wrote for him.

[–] billiam0202 6 points 10 months ago

In his recent "interview" with Alex Jones, Musk called all PR firms "propagandists.". So that tracks.

[–] skyspydude1 18 points 10 months ago

I can tell you that nothing has changed about him. I personally know people who worked with him at that time, and he was just as much an arrogant and insufferable egoist as he is now. Legendary screaming matches and him talking completely out of his ass about absolutely everything were the norm and expected in every meeting.

Do any research on his tenure at Zip2/PayPal or any relationship he's ever had, and you'll see Musk has always been a petulant child, he just had a lot of people around him to try and hide it, but it seems like he's scared basically all of them away.

[–] nutsack 4 points 10 months ago

his political situation was completely different