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The U.S. will mark the anniversary of the January 6 insurrection on Saturday, a milestone that will confer upon the reality-dwelling citizenry a grim reminder of the potency of propaganda and how quickly it can warp perception when introduced into the public square.

Just three years ago, most of the country watched with dismay and horror as a violent MAGA mob beat back authorities and stormed the country’s citadel of democracy. The Donald Trump-incited crush of disillusioned rioters, fueled by a stream of fantastical lies, believed that the 2020 election had been stolen by sinister forces working to undermine the democratic election.

Of course, not only was their belief flatly incorrect, but evidence later emerged indicating that it was Trump who, in fact, had tried to subvert democracy.

Facts, however, have little bearing on the sentiment inside the Republican Party, which has been fed a steady diet of lies and half-truths by Fox News and the rest of the sprawling right-wing media machine. To wit, the false notion that Joe Biden nefariously stole the 2020 election is now widely shared inside the GOP. A CNN poll conducted over the summer found that nearly 70% of Republicans believe Biden’s win was not legitimate, a number that has continued to tick up.

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[–] NOPper 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Got it, my problem is I'm not applying enough hopes and dreams that the entire system changes because I voted for a write-in.

My plan is to keep voting in local candidates for local offices that are working to make the changes I'd love to see, but until then there's absolutely nothing I can do at a national level but try to keep the openly evil guy from winning by voting for the most likely other option. If you have a better plan that has a chance of changing anything THIS election cycle, I'd love to hear it and be educated. Honestly, I would!

[–] FlashMobOfOne -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Local level

This is the only power you have now, and you should absolutely vote progressive locally if a candidate actually has a progressive record. (And many Dems don't there either.)

At the national level, it's too late. It doesn't matter how you vote now. The simple fact is that Biden needs many people to vote for him that are finding it too expensive to live under his governance, and as we saw with Obama trying to hand of the reins to Hillary, that kind of record isn't something the public is going to buy. When Obama ignored the middle class, they didn't care that Trump was a racist piece of shit. They only cared that he was the candidate of change.

They're not going to care that Trump or DeSantis are fascist. They're going to care that they're not Biden, and therefore (in the minds of these voters) more likely to make a change that makes their individual lives easier.

[–] NOPper 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right, so I suck it up and vote Biden so my vote can at least try to counter someone voting the actual proclaimed dictator in the meantime, correct? We're back to square 1 until any of my preferred local candidates can get to the national level and hopefully push some real change. In the meantime I do the best I can and talk to people about what we could be doing better. Democracy yo. 🤷‍♂️

[–] FlashMobOfOne -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

If you think that's best, sure. Your vote is your business.

If democracy is your issue, though, I wouldn't vote Democrat, though. They cast themselves as stewards of democracy but they fight harder to keep Greens off the ballot than they do to beat Republicans in elections.

They are overtly anti-democratic, and that tendency has moved fascism along, not helped to stifle it. Democracy doesn't mean 'freedom to vote Democrat'. It means freedom to vote the party you want, and as a Green party supporter, they actively work to suppress my voice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, Greens are a bigger threat to Democrats losing than republicans are.

[–] K1nsey6 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Democrats are a larger threat to Democrats losing than Greens or Republicans. 'We are not Trump' is not a platform

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It absolutely is. Trump isn’t a person. As long as most of the GOP is emulating him, Trump, himself, is an ideology.

“We are not Trump” is shorthand.

Not that that is literally a part of anybody’s campaign. Biden has had a pretty accomplished first term given the split Congress and the stacked court. That “we are not trump” is some phrase coined against dems by some right wing blogger years ago.

You wouldn’t know that from watching the news, since every channel picks and chooses what they show and they are building their brands not just through the news that they are airing, but also by the news they are not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

can we be friends?