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[–] morgan_423 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This isn't going to happen until the majority of the country implements ranked choice voting, so that third party voting isn't just throwing your vote away. As long as we are in the current system, third party voting is pointless.

Focus your efforts on getting ranked choice adopted. It is the key that will actually unlock the ability to vote for third parties.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now three guesses which party is trying to make RCV illegal & already have in Florida.

[–] willis936 1 points 2 years ago

I'm assuming it's the party of ratfuckers who refuse to do anything that would win them the popular vote.

[–] Psephomancy 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ranked Choice Voting doesn't make third parties viable, either. It uses the same counting method as our current system (tally up people's first-choice preferences) and therefore suffers from all the same problems, like vote-splitting, spoiler effect, and center-squeeze effect. You can't fix the problems of FPTP by adding more rounds of FPTP. You need to allow voters to express opinions about all of the candidates and then actually count all of those opinions.

If you want third parties to be viable, you want real reforms like STAR Voting, Condorcet RCV, or Approval Voting.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

throwing your vote away

Until everyone stops thinking that way- the same cycle will repeat every 4 years.

Democrats and republicans blaming the person who came into office before them, for all of the countries problems, followed by a lot of election promises they will never keep.

[–] Thereisalamp 9 points 2 years ago

No, pp gave ipoh a viable path forward on 3rd party options.

Going "my way or the highway" instead of voting for people who can win is what gets you locked in fptp.

If voting records reflect spey for people who agree with and support ranked choice you'll see more politicians who support it.

[–] DiachronicShear 2 points 2 years ago

It's pretty much an objective fact that voting third-party (especially in a swing state), is indeed "throwing your vote away". It has been well studied and well documented.