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Don't let Ukraine be destroyed: Biden hurries Congress on aid after furious Russian attack
(www.pravda.com.ua)
this post was submitted on 30 Dec 2023
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the fuck is the west doing?
I mean it should be obvious that it will get a lot worse and a lot more expensive if we allow the Russians to win, not to mention that we then share a border with a country lead by a complete degenerate dictator who wants to eradicate our way of life.
And all I see is the US and my own country Germany fucking around and providing only the bare minimum...
In 2016 the US Republican Party radically changed to support Trump. Moderates became radicals overnight. There was always a specter of Russia compromising a lot of them.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/feds-found-rnc-related-cyberattack-months-ago-raise/story?id=44130951
Yup, there's a reason only the DNC's emails were released.
The republicans represent Putin.
Oh, are you telling one of your favorite propaganda lies again?
In reality Germany -a small country with just ~16% of the US' GDP- is providing 40% of the US' support just in military aid (also more than the next 5 countries combined), and about three times as much measured by share of GDP in total.
Yet still after nearly two years the lie that Ukraine's by far biggest supporters are actually NoT DoInG aNyThInG bUt ThE bArE mInImUm is still Russia's top export.
Putin is playing the long game by buying up political parties all over Europe and the US for the last decade, and now it’s starting to pay off.
Already share a border - Finland/Baltics/Poland. But you are of course right. We're too decadent and complacent. Our politicians refuse to tell us the truth of how dire the situation is, even if top generals do.
Their losses have been heavy, but the Russian economy is now on a war setting, they're ramping up production of everything. If Ukraine falls, it's not impossible Putin'll try something stupid in the Baltics, especially if Trump wins the election or if there's chaos due to the election.
I mean, will NATO start a nuclear war over Russia invading a very small bit of the baltics? I have my doubts. Especially if there are plenty of populists in power, who refuse to join. Hungary, Turkey, the Netherlands, Slovakia, Italy... Not impossible that they say they'll put 'their people first' and refuse to join in defending the Baltics. Possible that Putin decides to make a gamble on this.Our militaries here in Europe are too weak to respond conventionally which makes him more likely to take that risk.
The man's always been a fan of the salami slicing tactic.
The US as well. If we can’t even follow through with keeping Ukraine supplied, at no danger to ourselves, are we really ready to escalate to WWIII over some small European country most Americans can’t find in a map? I like to think I have a good understanding of the situation but I’d have a hard time supporting that. Arming Ukraine is a good investment, strong support for the fundamental idea of NATO even if they are not a member, and it’s finally a conflict with a clear right and wrong where we can be the good guys. Direct military involvement can easily become the end of civilization.
Let me even put it to anyone here from the Balkans. Of course you don’t want an aggressive tyrant to invade. Of course you don’t want the death and destruction, loss of freedom and human rights, from being invaded. But are you really demanding potentially the end of all civilization in your defense?
They're busy financing the genocide in Gaza. Ukrainians can go fuck themselves apparently.